Curious Artila Jaded_i Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 Hi everyone, I'm new at this whole coding thing so was wondering if anyone out there would be willing to Collaborate with me on a scenario? I have a really good idea (at least *I* think it is) which would be about the size (maybe a bit smaller) then The Za-Khazi Run. It has to do with continuing the storyline of Erika and the vahnatai. Drop me an email if you are interested. Jaded1313@hotmail.com I've been working on some towns, have 3 small ones done- i just am totally out of my depth on coding though. I can do dialogue and some design, and the storyline if anyone is willing to help let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Overwhelming Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 That's the problem, isn't it? Everyone have ideas, but only a few are willing to code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Jaded_i Posted July 18, 2004 Author Share Posted July 18, 2004 Well i just finishing playing the "babysitting" scenero, and no offensive to the people that came up with it but it really didn't have a very involved or interesting storyline. I was just thinking that if someone knows how to do it but doesn't have a very good storyline i can provide that. I'm still working on my scenero, and will get it done eventually without help i suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Overwhelming Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 Just read the editor docs. You'll see it isn't that difficult. You just have to practice it a little bit. Don't worry, if you don't know how to implement a specific feature, or something goes wrong with your script, you can always ask for help in this forum. In the end, you'll feel more satisfied with your scenario, and you'll have enough experience with scripting to start another and even more ambitious scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 Quote: Originally written by Jaded_i: It has to do with continuing the storyline of Erika and the vahnatai. For the love of god, please, no. Erika is dead. Rentar-Ihrno is vanished. Leave it that way. One "Erika's Legacy" (in BoE) is all we need. If you have any other ideas for scenarios, make them first, and then maybe give this one a try. Collaborations in Blades rarely if ever work. We had a discussion of this here with a fellow named Max Power, who to the best of my knowledge is still at work on his collaboration. And BS was rather small and uninteresting because Khoth didn't put that much time into it, not because he didn't have that many good ideas. If he had time to do more, it would've been better. Good coders rarely will go in for this sort of thing. EDIT: While I have seen several people post that they have a great story that they can't code, I don't think I've ever seen anyone post that they have great coding abilities but no ideas for a scenario plot. This is a bad sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Jaded_i Posted July 19, 2004 Author Share Posted July 19, 2004 Don't worry i'm not rehashing A3. There is no Rentar-Ihrno. Erika's legacy is mostly what it is concerned with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall The Creator Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 Goodness, is it the third week of the month already? Week 1: Will anyone keep making BoE scenarios now BoA is out? Week 2: Someone please make a new scenario! Week 3: How about... wait for it... a COLLABORATION! Week 4: I'm never going to make a scenario, but here are some ideas for those who are! Must be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Yellow Sub Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 Quote: Originally written by Just call me Kel: Quote: Originally written by Jaded_i: It has to do with continuing the storyline of Erika and the vahnatai. For the love of god, please, no. Erika is dead. Rentar-Ihrno is vanished. Leave it that way. One "Erika's Legacy" (in BoE) is all we need. If you have any other ideas for scenarios, make them first, and then maybe give this one a try. Erika is in my scenerio Except she is in a Paralell World You should understand. you do know about Quantum Physics and Multiple Dimensions right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 Quote: Originally written by GIFTSare2 intelectly backwards:Erika is in my scenerio Except she is in a Paralell World You should understand. you do know about Quantum Physics and Multiple Dimensions right? Yes. I'm starting a Physics minor at UC Berkeley. I'd say I know something about quantum physics, although as far as I know, real theories of higher-dimensional space have nothing to do with alternate realities anymore. But sure, alternate realities. Yeah. Got it. This premise makes it only slightly less of an inherently bad idea, but if handled badly could make it profoundly worse. Erika is dead. Let her rest in peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Yellow Sub Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 Quote: Originally written by Just call me Kel: Quote: Originally written by GIFTSare2 intelectly backwards:Erika is in my scenerio Except she is in a Paralell World You should understand. you do know about Quantum Physics and Multiple Dimensions right? Yes. I'm starting a Physics minor at UC Berkeley. I'd say I know something about quantum physics, although as far as I know, real theories of higher-dimensional space have nothing to do with alternate realities anymore. But sure, alternate realities. Yeah. Got it. This premise makes it only slightly less of an inherently bad idea, but if handled badly could make it profoundly worse. Erika is dead. Let her rest in peace. Dont worry. Erika in this dimension is a lonely lady from a town and does NOTHING to help you. I wanted Erika in it, but I didn't want the focus of the story to be on her. In my other dimension, she is dead in a grave, resting in peace . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 I've always felt that there were two main obstacles to collaborative efforts in BoE: 1) If one person gives up on the scenario, the whole thing tends to grind to a halt. 2) BoE wasn't modular enough. Towns could be imported between different copies of a scenario, sure, but outdoor sections, items, monsters and terrains couldn't. Now, BoA goes some way toward solving problem 2, since all of those things except outdoor sections are now just scripts and so can easily be transferred from one person's working copy of the scenario to another's. The ease of one person handing most of his work over to the others upon giving up may also help with problem 1, but it still means that each member of the team has to potentially be ready to complete the scenario on their own if the others pull out. And if they're prepared to do that, then what's the point of collaborating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Spidweb Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 I'm going to write Avernum 4, and Renar-Ihrno's blast at the end of Avernum 3 will have split Erika into fifty little Erikas. All of the NPCs will be Erika. And all of the PCs. And they will all be six inches tall. My art budget can be cut to a fraction. Delicious. Fit THAT into your continuity! Bwa hah hah! - Jeff Vogel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (inhales) OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (inhales again) OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (starts coughing, falls on the ground, dies) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Master Xan Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 It's the end of the world as we know it... it's the end of the world as... we... kn...ow ... ... *Xan no longer has the energy to sing...* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Fyora Toast With Roamer Butter Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 Collaborations work quite well. It is called being a beta tester. They write the scenario. You play it and make suggestions about plot, monsters, traps, and other things. I am not a coder but I do like beta testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Eldiran Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Quote: Originally written by Spidweb:I'm going to write Avernum 4, and Renar-Ihrno's blast at the end of Avernum 3 will have split Erika into fifty little Erikas. All of the NPCs will be Erika. And all of the PCs. And they will all be six inches tall. My art budget can be cut to a fraction. Delicious. Fit THAT into your continuity! Bwa hah hah! - Jeff Vogel Now I know exactly what to make my next scenario about. Heh heh heh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Jaded_i Posted July 20, 2004 Author Share Posted July 20, 2004 Ah, my thread has been graced with the presence of the creator himself. I'm honored. And yes, i've pretty much figured out that on this board you must never meantion the words: 'my idea for a new episode is...' or anything containing the words 'collaborative' and DEFINITLY not 'erika' Ok, thanks for all the advice. I'll go it alone and assuming my brain doesn't explode learning the scripts, and i don't throw my computer out the window in frustration- i'll finish it and then everyone can complain i put erika in it. But yes, she's dead in it. Don't ask questions, just play the game. In whatever reality you prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Overwhelming Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Don't worry. You don't have to limit yourself to Avernum history. You just do as you like. That why custom scenarios are fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Overwhelming Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Quote: Originally written by Just call me Kel:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (inhales) OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (inhales again) OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (starts coughing, falls on the ground, dies) Waking me up at this our of the morning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Imban Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 jaded i - Part of the problem was that Erika's Legacy was frustrating and not all that great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Overwhelming Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 How's your scenario? Or still waiting for collaborators? One good point about collaborations, is that the collaborators can incentivate (sp?) eachother. Also can compensate eachother's weaknesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Jaded_i Posted July 24, 2004 Author Share Posted July 24, 2004 I'm still working on it thanks for asking. I actually have someone who is willing to help me! So hopefully it will get done this century and you can see if you like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Overwhelming Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Quote: Originally written by Jaded_i:I'm still working on it thanks for asking. I actually have someone who is willing to help me! Question though- where do you download erika's legacy? Thought i'd give it a go and see what to avoid. You can get it from Spiderweb here . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Jaded_i Posted July 24, 2004 Author Share Posted July 24, 2004 I just thought of something- its a boe not a boa scenerio right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Yes. Seeing as how there are three third-party BoA scenarios (four if you count Undead Valley, as yet unreleased, or five if you count the utility HLPM), this should not come as a surprise. EDIT: I can't wait to see where THIS is going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Imban Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 I am currently working on a collaborative effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Eldiran Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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