Pink Fyora Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Has anyone ever tried creating an AU-Avernum senerio where some of the Drakons and their creations from the Geneforge games started appearing and, after mistaking the mages and priests for Shapers, started trying to take over the place? Obviously, the PCs won't be able to shape anything themselves, but they could have other tricks up their sleeves due to the reality warp. I've been trying to create one like that for a while now, but...my graphing skills reek severely... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelandon Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 See this thread for a discussion of Geneforge in BoA possibilities. No one has released a scenario doing this, but we've given a crossover some thought. Um, but that particular plot sounds as though it lacks promise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Fyora Posted February 19, 2007 Author Share Posted February 19, 2007 That 'plot' was off the top-of-my-head, I know it sounds promiseless. However...I will definately be peaking into that thread, Kelandon. I thank thee for thy response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaiya Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Actually, the vanatai are supposivly the shapers. The Avernum games are farther in time then the Geneforge games. Also, probably the reason why the Empire kills magical creatures is because they in the past attacked the creations that evolved to the creatures of the Avernum time.(gazers/eyebeasts being the only exception) I have other guesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Loquacious Lord Grimm Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 The Official Argument For Vahnatai Creationism -------------------- The Silent Assassin is off serving a pepperoni-and-dynamite pizza. Talk about celebrating your birthday with a bang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nioca Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I proposed a new form of Vahnatai Creationism a while back, except that everything in Ermarian was descended from the shapers, and that the Vahnatai was all that was left of the long forgotten Shaper empire. I also noted out several similarities between creatures in Avernum, and creatures in Geneforge. It went over like a lead balloon, but I still believe it to be a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punctuation rains from the heavens Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 This topic receives a nine-headed cave cow pie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callie Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 How do Vahnatai have anything to do with shapers? Shapers actually make creatures, unlike vahnatai that store a monster's soul and make a copy of it. Also their magics are different; shapers use essence to create creatures that remain with the creator until death, on the other hand, vahnatai use crystals and their simulacrums only exsist in combat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelandon Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Well, both are strange and otherworldly, and certain magic-using vahnatai have been called "shapers" since before there was such a thing as Geneforge. On the other hand, Jeff has stated pretty emphatically that the two worlds are different, unless I am grievously mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Fyora Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 The two worlds are indeed different, according to cannon. However, I suspect that Mr. Vogel liked the word 'shaper' a little too much in using it, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephesos Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Pink Fyora:...according to cannon. When one has a cannon, one can create whatever canon one deems fit. Shaper is a really good word, though. It beats everyone just being a run-of-the-mill mage or wizard. If the vahnatai had just been wizards and soldiers instead of Shapers, Keepers, and Blades, then I'm not sure I would've liked them as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake81 Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 I think that is possible to shape in BoA,there is a way for the PC and other for the NPC. For the PC create a special ability that let the party to create a new member than you can dismiss or abandon in certain point.Sounds easy but it must be VERY HARD TO DO and is only a raw idea. For the NPC only you have to create a script like ``spawner´´,but you have to make that it summons only one per turn. That is my theory;I'm a novice programmer and I have a regular english because i'm latin so try it and let me know if work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelandon Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 As far as I could understand, those ideas aren't scriptable. GF-style creation in BoA has been discussed here , starting about halfway down the page. The conclusion was that it's possible, though somewhat inelegant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enraged Slith Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 A BoA Geneforge scenario would be boring anyway. A BoE Geneforge scenario might actually be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake81 Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 I repeat THAT WAS ONLY A THEORY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilith Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 What exactly were you looking for if not constructive criticism of your theory? I don't see the above two posters being anything but polite to you; yelling at them is uncalled for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake81 Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Im only giving ideas.Im a novice and my scripting skill are very low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enraged Slith Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Before I knew how to script, I had an endless supply of ideas. Now that I know how to script, I get no ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake81 Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Yes,I understand because that I started my scenario using borrowed scripts from other scenarios,remaking them and making some trial and error to make the things work and now i close to finish it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Loquacious Lord Grimm Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Enraged Slith:Before I knew how to script, I had an endless supply of ideas. Now that I know how to script, I get no ideas. Quoted for truth. Blake, you're making a scenario? Do tell us about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake81 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 I started to make it about a year ago but a electric storm blasted my old computer and I lose all of my data,so I making a new one,it should finish it in april.It still have a few bugs on it but im fixing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dikiyoba Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Be sure to have it beta-tested. No matter how many of the bugs you think you've gotten, someone else will always find more. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake81 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 I don't need a beta-tester right now,but when I need one I will be sure of make all us know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki. Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Yay! Another designer! Maybe, with the recent up-turn in Blades activity, we can maybe twist Jeff's arm and get a few bug fixes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake81 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Well,my bugs are just writing problems,so they are easily fixed the real trouble is how I can find them.The BoA only say:Missing semicolon in line 216.I EVER have to go 1,2,3,4... and when I reach to the problem sometimes is not there.That makes VERY HARD to fix them all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilith Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 A decent text editor can count line numbers for you. Note that when BoA counts line numbers it only counts the actual number of line breaks, so you have to turn off line wrapping in your text editor before counting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelandon Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Be sure to check out the relevant resources, too. Alint is a good thing, and my links list has some good stuff, including Spidweb's bugs page, which has a note or two about line number problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callie Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Originally by Blake81 Quote: The BoA only say:Missing semicolon in line 216.I EVER have to go 1,2,3,4... and when I reach to the problem sometimes is not there. If you're using BBEdit, there is a nifty "Go to line" feature in the search menu, or just press command and J. I suggest you create the scenario on a Macintosh if you aren't already. Macs are easier to use and have better word processors. Even Spiderweb Software does the Mac versions first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enraged Slith Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Notepad has the same feature. Just press "ctrl + G." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake81 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Im still working it out,but is my first scenario so,I don't do to much dificult stuff and when a script don't work I try to remember an original scenario than have this function,I go to the script and I copy the section of it what I want to the mine.Easily done.The 95% of my scripts were created in that way,because that you would probably find unused strings of other scenarios in my scripts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephesos Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Hey, there's no shame in that. I remember doing that for most of my first scenario, too. Again, I look forward to the release of your scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake81 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Before relase it I need to finish it there are two towns that I not completed yet,It should be ready for beta testing in a month or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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