Curious Artila Viseroth Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 Is it just me or is Simulacrum a flat out game-breaking spell? I mean, all you have to do to win ANY fight in the game with little to no effort is to sit back with your mage and summon Dark Wyrms, Power Crystals, or whatever other godlike creatures you happen to soul capture. Dark Wyrms are just crazy...they have HUNDREDS of hp, brutal multi-hitting melee attacks, and an insanely damaging ranged attack. Why make it possible to capture such ridiculously strong creatures? I'm only on day 50, yet I can completely descimate entire cities with my party of three and my incredible simulacrum summons, not to mention how easily I can win any other battles I come across. I feel that this spell needs some tweaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 It was reworked for Blades of Avernum. ... The reworked version is still too powerful, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 The downside to the spell is that summoned minions' kills don't give you experience. Heavy simulacrum dependence is eventually crippling. —Alorael, who admits that it's not much of a balancing factor. Simulacrum makes the game less fun, though, so he doesn't use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug avernum master Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 I would point out that, simulacrum creatures should be used for one of 2 reasons: 1. Incredulously large amounts or rather powerful foes 2. Complete and total destruction of cities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Rent-an-Ihrno Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 unless you cheat or have simulacrum-usage as a primary goal, its only that effective at very late stages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toenail Returns Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 What monsters do you have in your Soul Crystal that seem unfair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan My Quasimodo Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 In Avernum 3 the Dark Wyrms I summoned just stood around (wriggled around?) without doing anything. Demons were much more helpful. From a summoning standpoint, using the character editor to give my player rods of arcana worked much better. But the game loses its interest pretty quickly with that kind of supernatural help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toenail Returns Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 I liked Exile better because you could actually summon decent monsters to fight for you instead of having to put 'em in a crystal. Even though Drakefyre showed his opionion of summoning here . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Viseroth Posted March 28, 2005 Author Share Posted March 28, 2005 I've got Empire Dervish, Power Crystal, Haakai, and of course, Dark Wyrm as my simulacrum summons. I did not cheat to get any of them, unless you consider reloading a few times while fighting them cheating, which I'm sure some people might. Dark Wyrms are godly. Try them some time. You can get them early on in the giant cave, if I recall correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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