Well-Actually War Trall Spidweb Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 We have just released Avernum v2.0 for Macintosh as a public beta. This new version is fully Carbonized and will run natively on OS X. You can download it at: ftp://ftp.spiderwebsoftware.com/mac/Avernum.demo.v20.bin. If you try it out and have any problems, please let us know at spidweb@spiderwebsoftware.com. A Carbonized Avernum 2 should follow in a week or so. - Jeff Vogel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Dark Mage Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Can please somebody explain to me what is a carbonized version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 It runs natively in OS X, as Jeff said. —Alorael, who imagines that this is less than enthralling news for the Windows users. For Mac users it's very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora nyagase Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Yay! Note that some web browsers (such as Firefox) will include the final . in the URL that Jeff listed, and will result in a "file not found" error. To avoid this, copy the link to the address bar and delete the final period. I ran the demo for a few minutes without problems. Will there be a carbonized installer? I have my full version Avernum install CD, but it's installer requires Classic (which I haven't installed). Cheers, - Nyagase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Quote: Originally written by nyagase:Note that some web browsers (such as Firefox) will include the final . in the URL that Jeff listed, and will result in a "file not found" error. To avoid this, copy the link to the address bar and delete the final period. That's not a problem that would be particular to one's browser. The error resides in coding of the page itself. Jeff accidentally put the period in his link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Quote: Originally written by nyagase:Will there be a carbonized installer? What do you mean? The installer from the download is OS X native. Your CD's installer isn't, because you got it before the game was Carbonized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk John S Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Quote: Originally written by Secular Right:It runs natively in OS X, as Jeff said. If that's all Carbonization is, why does it need a fancy name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora nyagase Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Quote: What do you mean? The installer from the download is OS X native. Your CD's installer isn't, because you got it before the game was Carbonized. Yes, but the download is for the non-registered demo. Is it possible to use the non-carbonized full version on the CD to play the full version of Avernum 1? Or should I be contacting spiderweb software for a new registration key? (ie ignore the old CD entirely) I'm currently happily playing A4, so it isn't a pressing issue... but this is the first thing I thought about when I heard that there was going to be a carbonized version of A1 and A2. I'm sure that other people will want to know the same thing. Cheers, - Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Carbon, if I recall, is the name of the runtime environment on OS X. It pretty much handles running the application. To carbonize means to make it suitable for the Carbon runtime environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Quote: Originally written by nyagase:Is it possible to use the non-carbonized full version on the CD to play the full version of Avernum 1? Of course. It'll just be in Classic mode. If you want to play it natively in OS X, you'll need to download the Carbonized version and get a new registration key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Spidweb Posted December 30, 2005 Author Share Posted December 30, 2005 "If you want to play it natively in OS X, you'll need to download the Carbonized version and get a new registration key." Almost. We will release a patch, so that you can upgrade your old Avernum to the OSX-native version without needing to reregister. - Jeff Vogel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Delicious Vlish Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Jeff, if you don't mind me asking, what are you going to do when Apple goes to Intel? Will there we another recompiling of old Spiderweb games? I certainly hope so. I still play the old Avernums, Geneforge, and the odd Exile or Nethergate game now and then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 I meant for right now, at least. Will our old saved games still work? I think I remember that the Carbonized A3 didn't work well with the Classic A3 saves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Given the low requirements of Spiderweb's games, I think Rosetta will probably handle games written for OS X but not Intel. It's the ones that never make it past Classic that might get lost in transition. —Alorael, who would keep an eye on the various OS 9 emulators for Mac just in case. Or keep an eye on the possibility of running Windows on an Intel chip to play the Windows version of older Spiderweb games, as unappealing as that may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Spidweb Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 "Jeff, if you don't mind me asking, what are you going to do when Apple goes to Intel? " I will make sure they work. But if, as I think they've said, Carbonized games work fine on the new platform, I hope to not have to rework everything. Making new releases of every old game in our catalog would devour a huge chunk of time I can't spare. If they don't work on the new platform, I'll have to redo them, I guess. - Jeff Vogel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Spidweb Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 We have just released Avernum 2 v2.0 for Macintosh as a public beta. Like the Avernum v2.0 update, this new version is fully Carbonized and will run natively on OS X. You can download it at: ftp://ftp.spiderwebsoftware.com/mac/Avernum2.demo.v20.bin If you try it out and have any problems, please let us know at spidweb@spiderwebsoftware.com. - Jeff Vogel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Thralni Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 So the only thing that is changed in this new version, is that it runs natively on OS X, nothing else? Its only the demo version, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Yes. —Alorael, who hates coming up with signatures for single word posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Lattan Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Given that I doubt Spidweb games use any kind of special chip instructions (Altivec, etc), it seems likely that a simple recompile in XCode would allow for the games to run completely natively in OS X-Intel. Having said that, Rosetta is likely to do a fine job...it won't really need the full speed of a Yonah chip to get its work done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Donald Hebb Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Correction- I don't think a patch is necessary. If you look under Macintosh HD > System Folder (9) > Preferences, you'll find Avernum 2 Prefs. Copy/drag it to: Macintosh HD > users > [your user name] > Library > Preferences And it'll be done like that. EDIT: Bonus! Saved games still work too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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