Garrulous Glaahk ultra112 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Ok, so now we know that the Dryak is no longer barred but required license to make and wingbolts exists as well, so does that mean we might see the later series creations early in the remake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt BMA Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 So G2 will at least have the Rotgroth, Gazer, Drakon and their variations - can't wait! All the more reason to play as a Shaper the further you go into the series, I'd forgotten how limited G1 really is when it comes to creation types. ultra112 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk ultra112 Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 yeah, but I do wonder if there will be a split line of creations for loyalist and rebels; also there is a high possibility that the wingbolt may officially appear in G2 remake, based on what is happening in mutagen. BMA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk ultra112 Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 I mean in my mind the loyalist tier 5 magic creation would be some kind of a giant spider, as for the tier 5 of fire creation; I think it would look like a giganotosaurus cross with a Kyshakk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Iguana-on-a-stick Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Or we could get the cockatrice as a non-secret creation in future games. That would nicely cover a high-end magic creation. (And then add a new secret creation, kickstarter willing.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk ultra112 Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 I mean Jeff did explicitly mention in the Reddit AMA that there will be more creations like the cockatrice, so it safe to say that the cockatrice will be treated as a different discipline entirely; which I suspect would compromise of other mixed school shaping creations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Mechalibur Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, ultra112 said: I mean Jeff did explicitly mention in the Reddit AMA that there will be more creations like the cockatrice, so it safe to say that the cockatrice will be treated as a different discipline entirely. I don't think that's safe to say at all. In fact, I'd say that's a huge leap in logic. Nothing about what Jeff says indicates the cockatrice would no longer be a magic creation. Edited March 27, 2021 by Mechalibur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk ultra112 Posted March 27, 2021 Author Share Posted March 27, 2021 Uh I think you are confused in what I meant, what I was referring is that the cockatrice wouldn't be a pure magic creation; but a hybrid shaping creation with magic dominate characteristics, which I thought would basically be a new category entirely for creations that are similar to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Iguana-on-a-stick Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Jeff said there will be more creations like the Cockatrice. You interpret that to mean there will be more creations that, lore-wise, are the result of multiple shaping disciplines being used together, and that this will lead to a new creation category being created. I interpret that to only mean there will be more new creations, possibly requiring a quest to unlock or upgrade them. I consider the whole "hybrid" thing to be incidental. Future new creations could just as easily be normal fire/battle/magic types. I also suspect that Jeff's plans are not set in stone at this stage. Slarti 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Mechalibur Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 14 hours ago, ultra112 said: Uh I think you are confused in what I meant, what I was referring is that the cockatrice wouldn't be a pure magic creation; but a hybrid shaping creation with magic dominate characteristics, which I thought would basically be a new category entirely for creations that are similar to it Right, that's what I thought you meant. None of what Jeff said really supports that at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt TriRodent Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Iguana-on-a-stick said: I also suspect that Jeff's plans are not set in stone at this stage. With QW2 as the next Spiderweb (planned) offering, yeah GF2 improvements/ideas are probably pretty flexible at this point...and while I can't wait, sadly I'll have to (of the first GF trilogy, #2 is far & away my favorite). But on topic (sort of), I really can't see a whole new shaping class being offered for the cockatrice or other future creations as that would really throw the skill point distribution out of balance. If there were say four shaping disciplines moving forward, you would need to make more skill points available to be able to really let the shapers train in the assorted disciplines/opening up the higher level creations. However ... those additional skill points would also be need to be available to guardians & agents... both of whom would probably dump them into melee or magic respectively & making them somewhat more powerful at 'x' level than a similar experienced shaper. Time will tell... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 It's more likely that Jeff would fill the gap in the existing Shaping class creations so with Ornks as battle and Cockatrice as magic, that a new one would be fire shaping. It really depends upon his mood and what the new creation does to see where it fits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan BenS Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 He could perhaps bifurcate an existing (fire, battle, magic) shaping line, such that @ a certain tier, you could choose either A or B. So, say, either a Glaahk or Cockatrice for a Tier 3 magic creation. That at least would offer variety and not force you to worry about strained skill point distributions, like a 4th shaping discipline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk ultra112 Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 Ok, perhaps I think I'm phrasing it wrong, what I meant that is the cockatrice belongs to the special class category right, I was saying that the special class would end up becoming a thing on it's own, but the skill point distribution will remain unchanged as the cockatrice is connected to the magic shaping skill, so the others like it would be using the same mechanics as the cockatrice did regarding the the shaping skill their connected to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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