Troglo / Giant barrier

[Everett Goldner]

...a) where is it? It's not marked on the map. I wandered past it at some point, but now can't find it again.

 

b) does bringing it down constitute dealing with the Giant problem at Lorelei and other giant-plagued towns? i.e., once I've done it will I be let in to see Prazac?

[Randomizer]

The Giant Cave complex has a map hidden away that shows the entrance of the Barrier on the east side of the mountains. You can't find the entrance without getting the map.

 

Bringing down the Barrier finishes the Troglodyte/Giant quest and finding the evidence is helpful. It also now lets you explore the rest of Castle Troglo.

 

To see Prazac, I think, you need to have finished at least 3 plague quests. Or was it 4. I don't know. Go flying off the bridge ere the other side I see.

[Everett Goldner]

I thought I remembered finding a map in the Giant Cave, but I don't see it listed in my possessions or special items... hmmm. It would be in one of the 2, wouldn't it?

[Randomizer]

It should be in your possessions because you click on it to see a crude map with where to go. The entrance doesn't appear until you get the map when you walk around outside where it should be.

[TriRodent]

6 hours ago, Randomizer said:

To see Prazac, I think, you need to have finished at least 3 plague quests. Or was it 4. I don't know

 

I know that it's not four because I've finished the game before without doing all of the golem one.  Usually by the time I'm strong enough to head that far north to see her I've done/wrapped up the troglo/giant so that would make three.  Maybe, if I remember, in a year or two when I decide to play again I'll try to see if I can get in to see the princess with only two plagues solved.

[Everett Goldner]

I've solved two plagues and the guy at Prazac's door says, you need to finish one of the two remaining before you get in, so it's 3.

[TriRodent]

Hmmm, I wonder if you can get in with two if you do the 'bypass the guy at the door & go up & around' way into Prazac's throne room.

 

Of course to do that you would have to be a decently high level just to have the tool use/dispel barrier/etc to go that way so you probably were strong enough to defeat the giants anyway.

[Everett Goldner]

OT but related, where do I pick up DIspel Barrier 3? There's been a number of different things I've noted where  it would have been best to have it...

[TriRodent]

54 minutes ago, Everett Goldner said:

where do I pick up DIspel Barrier 3

 

Have you found the assorted dragons yet?

 

(I'm 'not' knocking your asking the question - really - but at the top of every game's forum there's usually one or more stickied "Strategy Central" links that take you to threads that talk about "How do I get/do 'x'?", discussions of if 'x' skill is better than 'y', and other random ... well, strategy ... discussions.  An amazing resource if you dig into it (lots of spoilers too so beware))

[Everett Goldner]

When I've looked through the Strategy Central threads in the past it's been bullet points that don't help with specific situations, so I end up asking here. I've been to the 2 dragon lairs that are inside one complex on a dual level, but haven't gotten in to actually talk to the dragons, or found any spell books. Closed off gates, "you can't do this right now" messages.

[Randomizer]

Khoth's Library has the spell books and you need to talk to the other dragon to get access to the closed off areas.

 

I'm sure Prazac's throne room door never opens without the permission of that guy. One of those Stuff Done Flags that needs the proper event to trigger it.

[TriRodent]

1 hour ago, Everett Goldner said:

I've been to the 2 dragon lairs that are inside one complex on a dual level

 

There are three dragons there, walk past the closed gates to get to a ramp that leads to the next dragon.

 

I kind of like the bullet points as they get me to the right area without (usually) spoiling exactly how/what I need to do to get there.  That sill lets me play the game without just following "go to 'x' & press 'y', after that you head to 'z' & talk to 'a', from there go to 'b' & do 'c', etc..  'those' I save for when I'm really stuck & can't figure things out.

 

40 minutes ago, Randomizer said:

I'm sure Prazac's throne room door never opens without the permission of that guy. One of those Stuff Done Flags that needs the proper event to trigger it.

 

The door next to him sure, but there is the other set of doors that you can go through to get to the throne room.  I wonder if they're keyed to the same 'you need to have done three plagues' before you can get in that way.

 

The contrarian in me usually enters that way even though I would get in if I asked his permission.  It's more so I can (mentally) say to him on the way out "Permission? But I've already seen her..." and watch the confusion

[Everett Goldner]

Revisiting this, picking up this game 6 months later, I still don't have the Giant map that shows the barrier entrance. I've long-since explored the whole Giant complex, so wherever I missed it, I'm not going to find it without help.

[TriRodent]

IIRC the map is in the 'treasure/boss room' (for lack of a better term) underneath the giant cave with four different tribes.  You need to get into the room through the push button puzzle (access to which, again iirc, is after a fight on the far left of the same map/area).  Once you kill the assorted baddies, the map showing the location to the entrance is in one of the chests.

 

Back to iirc territory, the map was on a piece of paper that was in your inventory & 'not' a special item (so it wouldn't show up there).  Even if you no longer have the map, you should be able to now find/see the barrier entrance (just slightly west of the Lenny & Squiggy towns over on the eastern coast.

[Everett Goldner]

Ugh, what's the solution to the push button puzzle? I did it 6 months ago...

[Randomizer]

The solution

Only use the four bottom buttons.