Can you change outdoor wall sheets?

[Vox]

Ive been wondering this for awhile.

 

Ive clicked through almost every menu and submenu I can find in the editor and searched the forums several times.

 

Is it possible to change the wall sheets for an outdoor location? or even for the scenario as a whole? 

[Kelandon]

You can change from surface to cave, but other than that, no, not by normal means.

 

You could conceivably try to create custom terrains that work the same way as walls, but it would be an incredible pain. You could also use the LP approach to changing character graphics (use a custom graphic with the same number as the graphic you're trying to replace), but that only worked on Macs.

[Vox]

Ah I didn't think of that. I might try to give that a go making custom terrains. Cheers!

 

Time to dust of the BoA Editor guide!

[Ishad Nha]

You can create two new outdoor terrain types that replace the two existing types but that is about it, unless you want a town to function as a surrogate outdoor section.

[Vox]

17 hours ago, Ishad Nha said:

You can create two new outdoor terrain types that replace the two existing types but that is about it, unless you want a town to function as a surrogate outdoor section.

what do you mean exactly with terrain types? Like replace the wall sheet somehow or do you mean something else?

[Ishad Nha]

Put the official outdoor wall types in a safe place, You can create a special folder in your BoA directory. I think the graphics are types 614 and 616.
All terrain graphics should be found in the folder: Blades of Avernum\Data\Terrain Graphics
Make your own two new wall types, name them G614.bmp and G616.bmp and put them in the Data folder. This change will affect all outdoor sections in your scenario, whether you want that or not.

[Vox]

Oh i see yeah that would work but everyone else who downloads my scenario would also need to do the edit so I probably won’t do that

[Ishad Nha]

The process could be automated by a batch file or a small custom program.

[Vox]

5 hours ago, Ishad Nha said:

The process could be automated by a batch file or a small custom program.

That's a bit out of my league there bud

[Celtic Minstrel]

Replacing base data files would only be required on Windows for the record, since with the cmg file the game automatically loads sheets from there in preference to the main resources.

 

The reason that doesn't work on Windows is because it's not an intentional feature - it's just the way the Macintosh Resource Manager works.

[Kelandon]

But it’s still a bad idea, and I say that as someone who actually did it for one scenario. (Not changing the walls, but changing a built-in graphic.)

[Celtic Minstrel]

I don't think it would be a bad idea if it worked on both platforms, though I'd say there's no point unless it's a graphic that's not otherwise customizable. Custom missiles or explosions could be done this way, though. That said, not working on Windows is a pretty big barrier.

[Kelandon]

44 minutes ago, Celtic Minstrel said:

That said, not working on Windows is a pretty big barrier.

Agreed. If it worked, it would be perfectly fine.