Unflappable Drayk Radix Malorum Est Cupiditas Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 So the recent elections where I live got me thinking, and I feel like it's been too long since we last did this. https://www.politicalcompass.org/ I don't think I really realized how much this test sucks until now... https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=7.88&soc=-6.41 Yea, a year is definitely too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk ĐªгŦĦ Єяŋϊε Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Unfortunately most questions the answer is yes, but..... In some cases..... Or I don't really care.... So I'm not really convinced that my grades are really significant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Economic: -4.38 Social: -5.74 I'm right about where I expected to be, but I agree that the test really isn't that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Aran Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Can't believe this thing still works: http://ermarian.net/...ics/compass/map (I don't even want to read the code in that page.) Eco: -6.38 Soc: -8.56 Edit: Link fixed, missing a part of the URL. Edit2: Seven years after writing the code for that ellipse thing, I finally realize what's wrong with it. By aligning it with the axis instead of rotating it, I'm treating the coordinates as independent even though they're clearly pretty correlated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug Forget it Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I looked at some of the questions and decided not to take the test. I would probably call myself, economically somewhat to the right, socially way to the left with the exception of second amendment type things. I realize it's just an internet quiz but I feel like my answers are going to be "well it depends..." - some of these questions even seem a bit loaded toward one side or the other. I guess you'll have that since a quiz form can't really grade open-ended responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Level 1 Hermit Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=-4.0&soc=-5.08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I'm curious what you mean by the other "second amendment type" things, Hogan. I'm guessing you have a specific type of thing in mind but I'm not quite sure what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Economic Left/Right: -10.0 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Filthy casuals: (that's -10 on the Economic Left/Right scale, but only a -9.54 on the Libertarian/Authoritarian scale. i am slowly sinking into the depths of the bottom-left) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 It's been a while since I've taken this. Based on my test answers, which included an awful lot of non-"strongly" answers, I'm surprised I wasn't closer to the middle. Based on how I tend to think about my views, I'm surprised I wasn't further from it. Economic Left/Right: -8.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.79 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug Forget it Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I'm curious what you mean by the other "second amendment type" things, Hogan. I'm guessing you have a specific type of thing in mind but I'm not quite sure what. Well, I suppose I generalised in a rather broad way with that remark. Economically I'd say I'm a touch right of centre but socially, I seem to mostly be a big ol' lefty with that being the most prominent of exceptions. I'll elaborate a little: I am an LGBT ally, do work with disability rights and gender equality movements, I am extremely pro-marijuana legalisation, I consider diversity a good thing, I am agnostic and while I am not adverse to religion, I am very adverse to politicised religion... and my own career is in community nutrition, having done volunteer work even with WIC and Meals on Wheels... I'm a proponent of services such as midwifery, fair trade, local foods, pesticide-free lawns... So most people would think it unusual that you could also correctly call me a card-carrying NRA member - I feel gun-free zones are counterproductive, and I believe the citizenry should not only be armed and trained (stress on the trained... not enough of that going around), but better so than our government. I support open carry (not brandishing mind you, but appropriately holstered and secured) and I actually feel safer if there are more guns around, not fewer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Edgwyn Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I scored essentially in the center, but like last year, I consider the whole thing overly simplified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Luca Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Honestly, there's a number of these that I would have preferred a neutral option to, or at least more questions for a better reading. I've taken this test twice and there was a marked movement just between some basic weighting (even if the ultimate decision was the same). For the number of questions asked, I guess I should be surprised. First test: Economic Left/Right: -7.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.08 Second test: Economic Left/Right: -8.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.18 The midpoint between these two is -8.07, -6.13, so I guess I'll go with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Economic Left/Right: -7.13 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.82 contrary to popular belief im not actually hitler, sorry to disappoint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 -9.25, -9.28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Aran Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Woah, you're in second place for the largest jump in consecutive polls: [/creepy-archivist] sources: 2005: http://pied-piper.ermarian.net/topic/1/2586 2008: [data presumably lost] 2007: http://pied-piper.ermarian.net/topic/1/4515/p1 2010: http://spiderwebforums.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/13708-political-compass-reborn/ 2011: http://spiderwebforums.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/16037-where-do-you-fall-on-the-political-compass/ 2012: http://spiderwebforums.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/17947-political-compass-round-infinity/ 2014: http://spiderwebforums.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/20508-its-that-time-again/ Edit: Wait no, I was just missing like a bunch of threads between 2008 and now (2010, 2012, 2014). Edit2: I can't believe that my map also got saved by the web archive - including all combinations of groups I've tried so far, which could be up to 2^11. Callie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dintiradan Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 2007: (2.00, 2.92) 2010: (0.62, -1.13) 2011: (-1.88, -2.56) 2012: (-0.50, -0.97) 2015: (-4.50, -5.03) My biggest shift yet, but it's also the biggest gap of time between tests. If you graph the results and ignore the outlier that is 2012, my descent into pinko territory is pretty consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Aran Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 The whole average has moved down fairly far - it's now near -7, and it used to hover around -3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Does anyone know if the questions/scoring system remain the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I don't remember any of the questions changing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 The website suggests there have been some minor adjustments, but the questions do sound just like they have forever. Also, Aran, this is the best chart. I love that the chart you put together in 2007 is still updating. That's longevity of creation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Aran Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 It's also one of the few things on the site I've never thrown out and rewritten (both that page and the GD-based plotting library). At this point the code is so horrible it's weirdly beautiful. As for the test: I can't list the questions from memory, but I recognize them and I'm pretty sure they were all there when I first took the test. One thing that changed was the statement "It's all right to be open about sex, but these days it's gone too far" getting amended to "These days openness about sex has gone too far" some years back, which makes sense because the original was kind of ambiguous. They might consider doing something similar to "The death penalty should be an option for the most serious crimes". The "plant genetic resources" is also one weird over-specific statement. I always did wonder why there was no question on gun control, alt med or vaccination - surely those issues were already around when the test was made, and if they were included, I (and a ton of other liberals, presumably) would score much higher on the authoritarian scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan tridash Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 -3.0, -3.44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Misc Staple Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Economic Left/Right: -7.5 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Goldengirl Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I've shifted pretty drastically, if memory serves right. Something about ideology being fluid during the teens and twenties. Economic Left/Right: -6.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.95 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Nephil Thief Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 https://www.politica...-7.88&soc=-6.77 Economic Left/Right: -7.88 Social Liberterian/Authoritarian: -6.77 For whatever that's worth. My answers on some things would skew more authoritarian by the standards of a multiple-choice test. To be honest, that is in part from observing my own lack of scruples at times; I think I'd be doing more good in the world if I were mandated to, rather than just on-and-off encouraged. And likewise, less ill if some of my worse habits were actually illegal. (Not an excuse, mind. But.) [Edit: for some reason I find it amusing, given the above, that my current forum title is "Mercenary."] Oh, and on a different and rather depressing note: https://www.politica...-7.88&soc=-6.77 I'd heard the UK's left kind of imploded last year (and read all about it on a very acerbic blog), but... wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Luca Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Oh, and on a different and rather depressing note: https://www.politica...-7.88&soc=-6.77 I'd heard the UK's left kind of imploded last year (and read all about it on a very acerbic blog), but... wow. Okaaay, but https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2012 Tyranicus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Nephil Thief Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Okaaay, but https://www.politica.../uselection2012 Wow. Sorry! I was taking it as a given that the US skews way to the right, but didn't realize how far to the authoritarian right we skew even by current UK standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Yes, the U.S. is becoming increasingly plutocratic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Kennedy Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 The first time I took it this year I forgot to fill some of the questions and ended up getting -12 on the Economic axis. (Think my Social axis was about -3.5 ) Second time I took it with all answers filled in my scores were: Economic Left/Right: -8.0 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Aran Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 I didn't think you could get any value outside [-10,10]... keira 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Luca Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 The webform also doesn't allow you to proceed to the next page unless all questions are answered on your current page. So either that didn't happen or you took a different test somewhere else. keira and Tyranicus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Kennedy Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 The webform also doesn't allow you to proceed to the next page unless all questions are answered on your current page. So either that didn't happen or you took a different test somewhere else. That may be the reason how I got the -12 score. When it griped at me for leaving some of the questions blank my guess was that maybe the answers were counted twice, one for when some were blank, and again after it made me fill in the questions that were missing. This only happened once though and I have not been able to reproduce so maybe it's been fixed. Either way I sent an email to the site to let them know anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Jerakeen Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) Economic: -8.0 Social: -7.59 I don't remember my exact score from last time, but I don't think it's changed much. Edit: Oh hey, I'm more libertarian than I was. Thanks for linkies, Aran! Edited April 3, 2015 by Jerakeen Unable to spell the word "edit" correctly after two tries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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