Articulate Vlish Kordanor Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Heya, not sure if it's already known but the manual for Avadon 2 is already available here: ftp://ftp.spidweb.com/documentation/Avadon%202%20Instructions.pdf Was the first hit when I googled for "avadon dexterity sooner in combat". Hope this is actually news, otherwise you can delete this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Jeff released the instructions first and some one is reading them! A Spiderweb first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Questionably Legal Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Ahhh. . . delicious instructional data. I slaver in anticipation. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Ceiling Durkheim Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Hmm. The manual gives the impression that character level is still capped at 30, and skills are dependent on the levels of both skills below them (as opposed to the higher of the two levels, as in A:EftP). These were both the basis of a lot of player complaint on the forums last time around, and I had been under the impression that Jeff was planning to change them for Avadon 2. Did he scrap that idea? Alternately, it could just be lack of attention to detail in the manual. I'm certainly hoping for the latter; I suppose I'll be able to find out for myself in a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Level 30 cap and you need both skills to advance the higher one. On the other hand you can still be pretty powerful without high tier abilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Ceiling Durkheim Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Huh. Any idea why he hung onto those? The level cap I can understand from a game balance perspective, so that players can't just outlevel late-game content (not that this was all that terrible a problem in SW games without a hard cap). The bottom-heavy skill system? I don't think I've ever seen anyone express an opinion more positive than indifference on that one, and plenty that were rather less positive than that. It also seems to contradict his own design philosophy, as elucidated in various of his blog posts, about making levels (especially later in the game) seem significant and interesting. "This level I guess I'll put two points into a skill I never use so that next level I can put two points into a skill I do actually use" seems to me to stand in clear contradistinction to that ideal. It's especially odd that he kept it that way given that it likely wouldn't have been especially labor-intensive to change, since after all he has already programmed a game that uses a more balanced skill tree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 It's especially odd that he kept it that way given that it likely wouldn't have been especially labor-intensive to change, since after all he has already programmed a game that uses a more balanced skill tree. this was my thought too when I saw that bottom-heavy trees were back. the a:eftp skill tree was a huge improvement over avadon. i guess there just isn't enough cool abilities/skills in avadon though, and you need somewhere to stick points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Triumph Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I wonder when we'll get an actual Avadon 2 forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody The Reverend Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 From looking at the screenshots, it appears that there was a change to reduce the number of prerequisites for the highest tier skills, however. In Avadon 1, the 4th tier skills required the raising all the skills in the middle column and either the left or right column. In the Avadon 2 screenshots, however, it appears that the middle column 3rd tier skill is no longer a prerequisite for either of the 4th tier skills. So, they should be easier to raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 You still have to decide if you want 6 or 8 for some abilities in the skill tree. All 8 at the bottom and for key center column means that you can't get 6 for the top tier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk mouton Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 As long as respec is available, I can live with whatever skill systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Edgwyn Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 The manual mentions meeting a Hand Briand in Fort Foresight to retrain characters, so it looks like it will be available at some point in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Unplayable Playable Character Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 So for clarification is this supposed to be only available to certain people or am I just missing something regarding the whole username and password thing? Not that its too big of a deal what with the game coming out wednesday and all, but I am so incredibly hyped for avadon 2 that I'll readily devour the manual anyway. Haha Fort Foresight... I see what you did there Jeff xD Ceiling Durkheim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Edgwyn Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 When I clicked on the link there was not a user name or password requirement. I was logged into the forums at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Kordanor Posted October 29, 2013 Author Share Posted October 29, 2013 Yub, seems to be pw protected now. Can't access it anymore either. I can however google for "avadon dexterity sooner in combat" and open the google cache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 That's because Google cache stores a copy of the information and isn't a link to the original source. This also gets around censor programs that won't let you go to a web site. Very useful when you are at a public library computer and need to get to a site that is restricted by them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Cala Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 From the manual:A Few Words on Companions and Romance For the first time in a Spiderweb Software game, it is possible to have a romance with one of the characters you meet. Because of limited developer time, there is only one romance with one character, and most players will never find the option. One result of our limited resources is that the only romance option is female if you are playing a male character and male if you are playing a female character. We’re an inclusive bunch here at Spiderweb, so, if you would like to switch this around, load your saved game, press Shift-D (on tablets, select Enter Cheat Code from the file menu), enter the code scoutswap and select ‘OK’ Very classy, Jeff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I'm glad the option's in there, although I wish it were more visible: let's face it, not every player is going to read the manual. On the bright side, the reaction to this at RPGCodex is going to be hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody The Reverend Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Can we have a romance with Redbeard? I would love to see how that turned out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Can we have a romance with Redbeard? I would love to see how that turned out! Every time you try, the old guy falls asleep on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Ceiling Durkheim Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Can we have a romance with Redbeard? I would love to see how that turned out! I support this, primarily because in light of the information presented above, it would give the player the ability to swap Redbeard's gender at will. I'm glad the option's in there, although I wish it were more visible: let's face it, not every player is going to read the manual. On the bright side, the reaction to this at RPGCodex is going to be hilarious. Oh? Now I'm curious. I've gotten the impression of RPG Codex as a group of people who consider themselves extremely Hardcore, and are very, perhaps a tad pathologically intent on making sure that everyone around them knows this, but beyond that I don't know much about them. Do you anticipate them taking up the banner of that most maligned and oppressed of conceptual entities, the Hetero Male Gamer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Oh? Now I'm curious. I've gotten the impression of RPG Codex as a group of people who consider themselves extremely Hardcore, and are very, perhaps a tad pathologically intent on making sure that everyone around them knows this, but beyond that I don't know much about them. Do you anticipate them taking up the banner of that most maligned and oppressed of conceptual entities, the Hetero Male Gamer? Well, for one thing they're pretty down on anything resembling anything that Bioware has done in the past 10 years, and the RPGCodex consensus on Avadon 1 was already that it was similar enough to Dragon Age to render it morally suspect, so a romanceable NPC companion is only going to further play into that narrative. But also a pretty vocal subsection of RPGCodex's forumgoers are literal neo-Nazis, or at least think it's cool to pretend to be on the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk stranger Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 A Few Words on Companions and Romance For the first time in a Spiderweb Software game, it is possible to have a romance with one of the characters you meet. Because of limited developer time, there is only one romance with one character, and most players will never find the option. Until it's posted on the Strategy Central thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 In order to find it you need to start very early in the game with the correct choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Edgwyn Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 The whole idea of a romance is not too surprising since there were comments posted on here a while ago about how Nathalie seemed to be falling for the PC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk RainbowDashRadical Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 So, you can change genders in this game. Do the genders have any impact on the way the PC will work. Like does it change certain skills, bring new abilities, unique weapons available to a certain gender?you know those kind of things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 You get a different portrait and graphics when you change gender. Also the scout's name and gender changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk RainbowDashRadical Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) So there is nothing else unique? Just graphics? Edited October 30, 2013 by RainbowDashRadical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Mosquito---Slayer Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Can we have a romance with Redbeard? I would love to see how that turned out! Give the guy a break, he has 3 wives already. RainbowDashRadical 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Ceiling Durkheim Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Give the guy a break, he has 3 wives already. Had three wives, you mean. One of them betrayed him and another got killed. Sounds like the perfect opportunity to me. Well, for one thing they're pretty down on anything resembling anything that Bioware has done in the past 10 years, and the RPGCodex consensus on Avadon 1 was already that it was similar enough to Dragon Age to render it morally suspect, so a romanceable NPC companion is only going to further play into that narrative. But also a pretty vocal subsection of RPGCodex's forumgoers are literal neo-Nazis, or at least think it's cool to pretend to be on the internet. Wow. Sounds like a real winsome bunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk RainbowDashRadical Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Sounds like Henry VIII. You only need three more buddy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.