Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Correlation does not equal causation! VCH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Rowen Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 If the option to "dislike" was added I wonder how it would effect the ranking? With out the "dislike" every thing is skewed in favor of the "like" as choosing not to like is not the same as the "dislike" option. VCH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 If the option to "dislike" was added I wonder how it would effect the ranking? Sylae would be the only one with a positive reputation, and everyone else would be between 0 and -589. Also, the only option for adding a dislike feature makes likes and dislikes anonymous, so we wouldn't be able to have statistics on it at all. Dikiyoba has grown rather fond of the current like system. It's silly and pointless, and that's the true spirit of these boards. The Loquacious Lord Grimm, Tyranicus and VCH 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Besides, I often like a post, only to dislike it later, The overall "likedness" of a member doesn't decrease, but it gives me a giddy thrill the likes of which most people think is"weird". VCH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Niiiiiiiiii-ki. When Dikiyoba likes and then quickly unlikes that like, the reputation reverts back to the original count. Maybe it only does that for a short time after the original like, though? VCH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Oh, no, that's what I mean. Once my like is retracted, there remains no evidence of the like except for a notification to say that I did like your post, and the realisation that I must have disliked it. Rowen clearly knows what I mean, if my 7 notifications are anything to go by. (oh god. this could very easily be a facebook conversation. what has happened to my beautiful SW?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Rowen Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Rowen clearly knows what I mean, if my 7 notifications are anything to go by. I was testing it out, repeatedly. nikki. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Mosquito---Slayer Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Not to spoil the fun for you guys, but it is actually possible to dislike posts even now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Not to spoil the fun for you guys, but it is actually possible to dislike posts even now. Oh? How so? Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Mosquito---Slayer Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Oh? How so? Go to your profile,click on the option for likes, become the master of the universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Go to your profile,click on the option for likes, become the master of the universe. That allows you to unlike the posts you have already liked (which results in no change to a reputation score, since it simply removes the positive reputation point you gave previously). That's different from having the ability to dislike a post (which would give a negative reputation point). Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Triumph Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I love how the internet has made "like," "dislike," and "unlike" into technical terms. VCH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Mosquito---Slayer Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 That allows you to unlike the posts you have already liked (which results in no change to a reputation score, since it simply removes the positive reputation point you gave previously). That's different from having the ability to dislike a post (which would give a negative reputation point). OOps I guess, I should have read the posts better. Also I saw the graph, managed to understand it, but will someone tell me what is R2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 OOps I guess, I should have read the posts better. Also I saw the graph, managed to understand it, but will someone tell me what is R2? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient_of_determination short answer: it's a statistics thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Nobody likes me Tyranicus, nikki., BMA and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Actaeon Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I never seem to see you anymore, Kel. Or should I say, #26. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt BMA Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 .....having the ability to dislike a post You can always like a post you really hate, so that you can unlike it later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Mosquito---Slayer Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Nobody likes me That's got to be the most innovative and the most ironic way of getting a bagful of likes. (even worse, you beat me to it. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted December 13, 2012 Author Share Posted December 13, 2012 Also, the only option for adding a dislike feature makes likes and dislikes anonymous, so we wouldn't be able to have statistics on it at all. Actually, no. It would just not display them publicly, the information has to be stored, otherwise users would be able to downvote something to oblivion relatively easily. If you look at the database, all reputation things are stored in reputation_index. You might also find core_like interesting, it's what seems to handle the display of who liked things, but doesn't do anything besides caching, as I discovered after two hours of SQLing. For reference, here's the SQL I used for my data. select author_name, count(id) as likes, n_posts, count(id)/n_posts as lpp from (select * from reputation_index left join posts on posts.pid = reputation_index.type_id where type='pid') as likes join (select member_id as n_uid, count(pid) as n_posts from posts join members on posts.author_id = members.member_id where post_date > 1350540000 group by author_id) as mposts on likes.author_id = mposts.n_uid group by author_id order by count(id)/n_posts desc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Actaeon Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 That's got to be the most innovative and the most ironic way of getting a bagful of likes. (even worse, you beat me to it. ) I'd call it underhanded and manipulative, but since I cooperated with it, I have no room to complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I'd call it underhanded and manipulative, but since I cooperated with it, I have no room to complain. HAHA SUCCESS!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast VCH Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Well that's interesting, apparently there's a quota of positive votes for each day, which I just reached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 (edited) Might be interesting to see the stats split by General / Game fora, to identify the impact of game releases more clearly. okay it's combined into four categories, BoX, Exile (and Exile Remake (And Exile Remake Remake)), Geneforge, and Avadon. Nethergate is not shown, if you're curious imagine a very small line. oh and the darker lines are 20-period moving averages Edited February 12, 2013 by sylae general/misc/techsupport is not shown because it's huge always Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Clearly, this chart says that Geneforge needs more faction debates. Down with the Shaper acid-spitting reptile-dogs! All hail the servile cultists! Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 To my partially color-blind eyes, this chart says, "There's some colors and a lot of spikes." Can there be a text summary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 You need to mark when games are released on sale with third party distributors to help remove the noise of new members complaining that the games don't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Nethergate is not shown, if you're curious imagine a very small line. Triumph 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Nethergate is also the oldest of the Spiderweb series and has the fewest games except for the much newer Avadon since it's not actually a series. Its engine is markedly the oldest, too. —Alorael, who definitely think game number is contributory. Release date is harder. N:R is actually newer than G4, but its engine is much older. It received a Steam rerelease that didn't generate much forum buzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 Nethergate is also the oldest of the Spiderweb series [....] It's engine is markedly the oldest, too. Exile called, they're on line three. Tyranicus and Actaeon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 What's Exile? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Exile - Avernum: The Original Series Exile was the first version of the series now known as Avernum. A six person party and different spells and wepons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I was being sarcastic, dear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Actaeon Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Nalyd? Sarcastic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Rowen Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Sarcastic, being Nalyd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 1. When I change sentences such that a noun becomes an adjective, the apostrophe must go. 2. By oldest I meant the most recent entry in the series is oldest, not that it is the series that has existed for longest. There's less discussion because most of the discussion has already been had and most of the players have already played or aren't going to. —Alorael, who suspects, without bothering to check, that Nethergate's traffic is close to where the Exile trilogy's is. The Avernum trilogy is more active, but if you want the story you still have to play those original trilogy games, and there are much newer games to act as bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) in related news, have another graph. this one is more intricate, and measures the appearance of certain phrases occurring in message bodies. It's pretty advanced, and certainly not a glorified Ctrl-F Edited February 13, 2013 by sylae guess what i became a fan of around april Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 MLP: Friendship is 70% magic with a 95% confidence interval from 45-95% —Alorael, who is quite sure that statistics are magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 —Alorael, who is quite sure that statistics are magic. You are now Twilight Sparkle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Triumph Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) I want to know whether the ponies like Avernum, Geneforge, or Avadon...or if they have true taste and realize Nethergate is the best pony game forum to post in. Also, what about Spike? Edited February 13, 2013 by Triumph Dragon. Tyranicus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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