Curious Artila promethean Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 I'm playing on the ipad-- I have the five brooches, The four pieces of password, the ritual from khoth to get through the twoer, and i have completed the first two missions. I have gotten past the two towers, but when I get to the point where Erika is suppose to send me off to kill the emperor I just get the "nothing happens your efforts have been in vain" message. I have gone through every dialog option I could for Erika, Aydin, Khoth, and Aydin's partners, as well is the scimitar leader, and nothing has changed. Any help would appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 After the two towers, you should get to this circle-looking area with a building to walk into after Erika teleports over. Are you entering the doorway? That will actually send you to Emperor Hawthorne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila promethean Posted April 29, 2012 Author Share Posted April 29, 2012 Erika never teleports over, I just get the message "your travels have been in vain" instead. From what I have read, Erika is supposed to teach me a ritual to summon her, but there is no dialog open for that when I talk to her, she does not acknowledge it at all that I have the brooches, which I take it is the trigger to teach me the ritual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Aoslare Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Erika's dialogue tree is annoyingly complex. It's possible that the option is there and you just haven't chosen it, despite going through it multiple times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila promethean Posted April 29, 2012 Author Share Posted April 29, 2012 Could you ( or anyone else ) give the appropriate dialogue options to get there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Kreador Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Did you tell Erika that you had the five brooches? I don't recall if that's necessary right at the moment. And you've checked your special items inventory in the quest log to be sure you have the five brooches with you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila promethean Posted April 29, 2012 Author Share Posted April 29, 2012 What if I kill Erika? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila promethean Posted April 29, 2012 Author Share Posted April 29, 2012 So, I'm guessing some sort of bug here, because killing Erika did the trick. I killed her, went to the summon location, and everything worked as it should, and as if she weren't dead. Loading my old save pre-Erika death then worked too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Kreador Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 I think she was haunting your computer. Better call Solberg for an exorcism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila promethean Posted April 30, 2012 Author Share Posted April 30, 2012 Could be... And, while I'm not unsympathetic to her anti-Empire plight (I was about to kill the emperor) after about 3 hours of sailing and teleporting around the underworld and rehashing every emperor-related conversation I could remember in the hopes I would trigger the right thing, all with no success, it felt really good to kill her. Had that not debugged the quest somehow, I would have been almost as contented to live with that as my end game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 If it worked even after reloading to a previous save from before you killed her, presumably it was actually something else you did that ended up fixing the quest. Maybe you did hit upon the right dialogue option somewhere in all that talking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Gon Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Click to reveal.. When I play this mission I always omit the fifth brooch because I feel the four brooch ending is the appropriate one Why would somebody like Erika Redmark, a high and mighty mage, bother to waste her time and power bringing back these, in her eyes, soldiers of fortune when she no longer has any use for them? Succeed or fail in their assassination attempt, they had already given her what she wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk ShieTar Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Click to reveal.. So she can make them tell her over and over again how exactly the Emperor died? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila promethean Posted May 1, 2012 Author Share Posted May 1, 2012 Because the war has only just begun, and while no soldiers in an army are indispensable, Erika has nothing to lose by letting the highly capable ones live a little longer to serve out the war. We have yet to see if she is evil, or simply monomaniacal in her pursuit of the empire's downfall. Either way though, even evil need not be wasteful. Indeed, it could be argued that unwavering pragmatism could itself be a form of evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 I think Erika would rather save Hawthorne's assassins just because it adds insult to injury. She'd rather not give anyone the satisfaction of torturing and killing the uppity worms who showed up and offed the ruler of the entire world. —Alorael, who also gets the sense that Erika isn't evil in a petty way. She'd probably rescue the A1 party simply because they did something she likes and she sees fit to reward them for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 I didn't get the impression that Erika was so blinded by her hatred for the Empire/Emperor that she was becoming it (though I did feel like it was suggested). What makes you think she's so cruel? As far as I'm concerned, she's only done good things for Avernum and there's no law against being doorknob to people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Necris Omega Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Letting the Empire get their hands on the, nay, HER assassins would be a victory for them. Erika, let the Empire have a victory if she can help it? Hah! Besides, these are the most powerful, successful adventurers Avernum has ever seen up until this point. They're USEFUL. If they can off dragons, demonlords, and the most powerful man in the entire world, who knows what else they can do? Erika's too smart to just throw away a proven resource like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Erika isn't nice. She doesn't particularly care about Avernum, she won't work with the Triad, and she's perfectly capable of bringing the Empire's revenge down on all of Avernum to get her revenge. But she's not cruel, either. Just very focused and unwilling to tolerate anyone else's demands on her time or efforts. —Alorael, who could imagine Erika pragmatically letting the Empire deal with guys who are known to be powerful enough to be dangerous, prone to killing and looting, and crazy enough to take on Hawthorne. But yes, the uses for such people probably outweighs the risks, especially for someone as risk-prone as Erika. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Necris Omega Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 I wouldn't characterize her as so callous myself - her dialog in E3/A3 made it pretty clear she's deeply pro-Avernum, Empire or no. She's just extremely driven and sees things from a level few others do. Besides, this time she makes it pretty clear that the Empire's invasion is an inevitability - Assassination or no. By killing Howthorne, she introduces a level of anarchy and chaos into the Empire ranks to hopefully soften them up some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora akhronath Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 i'm playing on windows and having the exact same problem. ive systematically gone through everything erika says, tried killing her, nothings working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora akhronath Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 nvm, got it. i didnt have enough rep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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