Fledgling Fyora Parasol Syndicate Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Recent lurker making the jump to query. In my first playthrough of EftP, I immediately decided I wanted Demonslayer. this leads to me entering Drath's crypt at level 17 for the final piece. Unsurprisingly, my hindquarters are thoroughly kicked, but i get the tip, and read drath's spellbook, gaining the unique skill. After several attempts to kill the boss, I give up, and leave. A full 10 LEVELS LATER, I am sent back to retrieve the book. This time, I am able to fight Drath, and do so. However, I can not interact with the spellbook at all. Nor is there a dialogue option to abort the quest. Due to my... somewhat nonlinear exploration, I'm not sure this counts as a bug, but it's obnoxious to not be able to complete this quest. Any advice/options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 As far as I can tell you either read Drath's spell book, leave it there, or take it for one of three people that want it. Jeff likes to make players choose between multiple rewards in some games. Welcome to Spiderweb Software. Please leave your sanity at the door. If you see mine I really, really need it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora Parasol Syndicate Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 I see. I guessed that might be the case. What's annoying is that without having that book, 2 out of 3 of those people won't offer later quests, since there's no way to end the quest after reading it. (P will presumably offer his other quests). I'm not sure what I'd change here, but offering you a quest you are unable to complete seems unsatisfactory. The NPCs should be able to acknowledge that it's undoable, at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 This part seems like a bug since the spellbook encounter effectively "disappears" after you read it rather than giving the typical "nothing else to do here" message. I suggest contacting Jeff and reporting the bug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 This is not a bug. The book makes it really clear, if you choose to read it, that the pages become blank and there is nothing else you can do with it. This is just a really obnoxious, pick-one-of-four-rewards-that-may-or-may-not-exist-depending-on-what-you-do-with-Pyrog's-book-and-which-you-can't-know-ahead-of-time scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 I disagree with it not being a bug. The encounter should not disappear completely. There should be at least a "there is nothing else to do here because the pages are all blank" message like just about every other such encounter explaining this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish blackwight Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 They're right, if the book is still there, you should be able to take it. The player should not lose quests for not guessing the right order. I also can't get the book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Hmm. Okay, on revisiting the game text, this is either a bug or a really badly written line of text: "As you close the book, you notice that the pages now appear blank. Somehow, you suspect that they won't appear that way to the next person who reads them." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Fael Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I think it's a badly written line of text. What does appear to be a bug is that there's no way to clear the quests from your list after you've read the book. With the Pyrog quests, you give the papers to one of the three and then tell the other two that you don't have them anymore and those quests go away. But with the Drath spellbook, I'm no seeing any dialog options for telling people I read the book myself and they can't have it, so I appear to be stuck with those quests on my quest list forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Yeah. I believe if you give the Drath book to one of them, you can clear it with the others (and even do Thantria's final quest). But not if you read it. That kinda sucks. However, there is a shift-D fix for this problem: SDF 40 20 1 I haven't tried it, but this should allow you to tell Thantria, Rita, and Kyass that you already used the book. Actually, it will let you tell them you gave it away, which isn't quite accurate, but at least you can move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Superba Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Maybe I should use the fixer, ask for your opinion: I gave Pyrog's tome to someone else than Thantria AND I read the tome in Drath's liar. I loose a main quest now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 You lost an optional quest and Jeff does it deliberately to make you choose loyalty to one side or greed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Superba Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Then there is something wrong in game timing, because I've been to Drath's and Pyrog before I discovered I had the chance to choose. However, the fixer doesn't work with shift-D, I've been now in Formello underground and the dialogue with Thantria didn't change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 You didn't lose a main quest. You lost an optional reward for a quest other people ask you to do anyway. Okay, I think there IS another bug here, when you try to report not having Pyrog's papers. Try using this shift-D code: SDF 34 26 1 That should solve the problem for both of the people you didn't give Pyrog's papers to. I'm not 100% sure this is a bug, but that SDF is checked for if you've already given the papers away, but NOT if you try to turn them in, and it never seems to have its value changed elsewhere. It is in the SDF category for Pyrog's lair though, so it's possible it is changed in the hardcode when you collect Pyrog's papers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Superba Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Thanks, problem it's not the Pyrog dialogue, I passed it already, it's the Drath's tome request. I read the tome in Drath's liar but she continues to give me the same dialogue about the quest: she says "Pyrog's papers are a minor detail compared to what is out there" and so on. The SDF 34 26 1 doesn't allow me to solve this empasse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Okay, I did some more looking, and some testing. It turns out my solution was correct, but "SDF" must actually be in lowercase. So hit shift-D and type sdf 40 20 1 then hit enter. Talk to her and the option should be there! I am reporting this bug to Jeff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Superba Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 It is there, thank you very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora Parasol Syndicate Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 Thanks for digging that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Kestral Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Hey, I guess this is a thread about an older version of the game, since I could read Drath's Tome and then also take it with me when I left. I was going to give it to Kyass, since he asked first, but I was just wondering who else wants it and what they will give as rewards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Sage in Patrick's tower wants it and also she wants Pyrog's papers and also that Empire's "ambassador" wants those too. This thread is for new version, once you give to some1 who wants it then you lose it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug Catweasle Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Rita in Patrick's Tower and Thantria in Formello also want this tome. I have now finished the description of Drath's Crypt in my walkthrough of AEP. BloomingLilac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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