Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I was too lazy to enter in 38 names by hand twice -- sorry. Refer to the following list: COMEDIES 1 — All's Well That Ends Well 2 — As You Like It 3 — The Comedy of Errors 4 — Love's Labour's Lost 5 — Measure for Measure 6 — The Merchant of Venice 7 — The Merry Wives of Windsor 8 — A Midsummer Night's Dream 9 — Much Ado About Nothing 10 — Pericles, Prince of Tyre 11 — The Taming of the Shrew 12 — The Tempest 13 — Twelfth Night 14 — The Two Gentlemen of Verona 15 — The Two Noble Kinsmen 16 — The Winter's Tale HISTORIES 17 — King John 18 — Richard II 19 — Henry IV, part 1 20 — Henry IV, part 2 21 — Henry V 22 — Henry VI, part 1 23 — Henry VI, part 2 24 — Henry VI, part 3 25 — Richard III 26 — Henry VIII TRAGEDIES 27 — Romeo and Juliet 28 — Coriolanus 29 — Titus Andronicus 30 — Timon of Athens 31 — Julius Caesar 32 — Macbeth 33 — Hamlet 34 — Troilus and Cressida 35 — King Lear 36 — Othello 37 — Antony and Cleopatra 38 — Cymbeline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Actaeon Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Three choices? I dislike being made to choose between Julius Caesar and Richard III. Anyway, I continue to assert that Romeo and Juliet, if viewed as a tragedy and not as a modern romance, is an underrated play. With youth and blind love as a tragic flaw, several interesting side characters, and some great soliloquies, it doesn't deserve the rap it sometimes gets. Other tragedies don't manage to sell me on the protagonist. I know several people who love Othello, but I'm afraid I spent the whole time wondering how the man could be so easily mislead. It's essentially the same ruse as "Much Ado About Nothing", but without the happy ending or the snarky secondary characters. All that being said, I've only read a baker's dozen of his plays, and seen less, so my opinions may be ill informed and inherantly meaningless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 So I was going to link to the climactic moment in this debate since it's now been perilously close to our conversation twice... but apparently the last four pages of that topic are lost. Of all the things... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I have read Macbeth, King Lear, Othello, and Romeo and Juliet (Required reading in school). The only one I somewhat liked was King Lear, and I can't decide which one I liked the least. I am curious: does anyone else here not like Shakespeare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 I don't think I can call you Shelley Long anymore. :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Heh, I had forgotten about you calling me that. (I tried finding the thread from which that originated but PPP seems to be a bit broken.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I find a number of the comedies generally weak, and I think my favorites would come from the standard laundry list of Shakespearean triumphs. My one real addition is Richard II: the play seems consistently overlooked, but I think it's one of the best. It stands up much better in performance than in reading, though. —Alorael, who appreciates the range in possible portrayal and character growth of the eponymous character. And unlike Macbeth, he doesn't leap gleefully into blood-spattered evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 http://pied-piper.ermarian.net/topic/1/4228 Happily, the JPGs haven't moved either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Originally Posted By: Means and Ends Committee I find a number of the comedies generally weak, and I think my favorites would come from the standard laundry list of Shakespearean triumphs. My one real addition is Richard II: the play seems consistently overlooked, but I think it's one of the best. It stands up much better in performance than in reading, though. we studied that in high school literature class. each of us took a character and read out their lines. i got to ham it up as bolingbroke. small lit classes with hippie teachers own also you mean "titular", not "eponymous" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Enraged Slith Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Is it bad that I can barely understand something that was written for uneducated country bumpkins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 The only one of my favourites that isn't one of the immediately obvious ones is "The Taming of the Shrew". It gets bonus points for the awesome movie with Richard Burton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I dislike R & J because the plot could have been resolved by giving either of the titular characters a darn good shaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Originally Posted By: Enraged Slith Is it bad that I can barely understand something that was written for uneducated country bumpkins? Queen Elizabeth was a uneducated country bumpkin? Hey, you might have something to that theory! My favorites were Richard III, Julius Caesar, and Macbeth. The onyl one I don't like is R&J, but only because it's sooooo overdone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Actaeon Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Originally Posted By: Shadowcat The only one of my favourites that isn't one of the immediately obvious ones is "The Taming of the Shrew". It gets bonus points for the awesome movie with Richard Burton. It's a good one. And "Ten Things I Hate About You" isn't half bad, either. I didn't select it, myself, because I thought going and naming my cat Katherine was enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Triumph Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 My favorite is Macbeth; I just find it fun. Some of the dialogue ("Geese, villian?") is hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Originally Posted By: Lilith also you mean "titular", not "eponymous" I don't think I do. Titular and eponymous can both be used to refer the to person whose name appears in the item described. —Alorael, who thinks Romeo and Juliet is a fine play about teenage love. Yes, the problems could be solved with a dose of common sense, but there's a character there to fruitlessly deliver it. Teenagers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 Well, eponymous more specifically implies that the other thing (i.e., the play) gets its name from the character. Which, in the case of a title character, it almost always does. This might be a harder sell for _Antony and Cleopatra_ because the title does not come just from Antony's name, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Originally Posted By: Means and Ends Committee —Alorael, who thinks Romeo and Juliet is a fine play about teenage love. Yes, the problems could be solved with a dose of common sense, but there's a character there to fruitlessly deliver it. Teenagers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 And I'd argue that Troilus and Cressida are both eponymous. It makes more sense than neither. —Alorael, who hadn't noticed the Cure Light Wounds in the background of that OotS before. He is amused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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