Tenderfoot Thahd Orc Lover Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 I have played all the Geneforges and Avernums, and am eagerly awaiting Avadon. Until then, I was wondering if anyone could point me towards other games, that are similar in nature. I tried Eschalon, but found the control scheme so frustrating and annoying that I could not play it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Originally Posted By: Orc Lover I have played all the Geneforges and Avernums, and am eagerly awaiting Avadon. Until then, I was wondering if anyone could point me towards other games, that are similar in nature. I tried Eschalon, but found the control scheme so frustrating and annoying that I could not play it. Well, I've found a good plot-heavy story driven RPG for the Iphone/Itouch/(Ipad?) is The Quest. It's very addictive, just don't play the sequels after Islands of Ice and Fire (they are fan-made and the suuuuuuck horribly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Nethergate. —Alorael, who really has to wonder if you've played every Blades of Avernum scenario. If you haven't, there's a lot of entertainment waiting for you. If you have, how do you feel about Blades of Exile? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Orc Lover Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 sounds cool, but i don't have an iphone I was really looking for something for a mac. And yes, i've played Nethergate. forgot about that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody BJ Back From the Beyond Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 If you play Blades of Avernum hang around the board for a little bit. We're having a contest, and, if all goes well, we will be needing beta testers for the contest scenarios. You don't need to be a designer to beta test. Just be willing to share your opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Orc Lover Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 Never really liked the games before Geneforge 1 and Avernum 4 as much. Geneforge was my first Spiderweb game. The old engine never particularly caught my fancy. I enjoyed the demos, but not enough to buy the full versions. Didn't like the mechanics as much. Never tried Exiles though. Should I? Are they still worth it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I'd say that depends largely on why you didn't like the first Avernum trilogy as much. The most I could suggest is to download and try the demo. Exile 2 is probably the best, followed by Exile 3. Or maybe the other way around; I'm not really sure. There are some things in Exile that (in my opinion) are better than in Avernum, such as the larger party or the greater variety of spells; on the other hand, the graphics are much worse. (Well... on average they're worse; some of the graphics are probably better than their Avernum counterparts.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Thaluikhain Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 To that I'd also add that I felt the interface was much more user friendly in the Exile than Avernum games. Though I would say that I think the Exile graphics were a lot nicer than the Avernum ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Some of them certainly were, yes. Perhaps not all of them though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toby-Linn Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Try Aveyond, it's a huge world to explore with lots of quests and a turn-based combat system. I had lots of fun playing it anyways. There's also sequels and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora ecliptic Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Ultima VI. Ultima VII. Fallout. Arcanum. Wizardry VII and VIII. Risen. Gothic I + II. Temple of Elemental Evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Originally Posted By: ecliptic Ultima VI. Ultima VII. Fallout. Arcanum. Wizardry VII and VIII. Risen. Gothic I + II. Temple of Elemental Evil. p.s. temple of elemental evil just got released on good old games buy it. play it. it owns. (but first find and install the big fanmade patch that's floating around the internet because otherwise it's Buggy As Hell) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Roy Dest Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 I recommend Knights of the Chalice. It's based on D&D rules like ToEE, but the graphics is retro (still lookable) and some of the music is nice to listen. And gameplay? Did I mention gameplay? It's magnificent! It's exactly what I want from turn-based combat. It's extremely tactical. Definitely this is a must-have for fans of indie RPGs like that. Then I also greatly enjoyed the now freeware Helherron. It has not much dialogue and roguelike clunky controls, but the combat is a wonderful experience. It is turn-based and tactical, yet very brutal. Spiderweb's nor Basilisk's games do not allow fountains of blood nor killing your enemies by heavy hit which will throw them as a projectile on another enemy. (and possibly kill both) Helherron has all that it takes. I recommend downloading an EARLIER version, which is surprisingly less bugged. The only annoying bug there is with the grid bugs or other numerous enemies, game tends to crash in combat with them. This is easily solved by scrolls or spells of mass wound and similar... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Roy Dest Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Another my two loves are Dark Disciples 1 and Dark Disciples 2 by Dodgysoft. These are games with so much detail and skill put into them. The music is lovely, specially the midi tunes of Bjorn Lynne in DD1. The style is similar to roguelike, i.e. one character, turn-based combat. (or step-based) But all is adequately graphical and with mouse. The game is very non-linear, there are many ways to solve puzzles, many hidden puzzles, tough enemies, countless mysterious areas to explore... The story is also nice... These are textbook RPGs! My favorite feature is crushing enemies with remotely controlled portcullis Specially dragons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 After playing Eschalon Book I 3 days I'm very frustrated sometimes, hit and damage ratios are quite low at start and fighting against more than 1 enemy can be deadly and enemies deal alot damage and hit ratio is slightly higher than player's. Healer (at 1st town) asks fortune on healing and equipments cost fortune too but player gold is scarce (even scarcier than A5) and alot of that goes to Health Potions/Elixirs and anti-Poison Potions (and natural curing takes quite a long if has got double-poison). Night and underground is really dark and torches don't give much light and if gets to fight while resting depending on health and enemy and amount of enemies its better to reload from save. Leveling takes long based on exp gained monsters (25-50 points experience per monster and when requirement to level is 1000-1500 exp-points it takes a while) and getting 3 points to divided amongst skills and few stats points it will take a long time until player is decent fighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Eschalon games require doing the quests to get major experience. Book 2 fixed most of your complaints except experience. It's a much better game engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 And yet still totally unbalanced and plagued by ridiculous exploits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 That's mostly due to not enough beta testers. There are only so many things that you exploit in each play through. Some of them got caught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Originally Posted By: Randomizer Eschalon games require doing the quests to get major experience. Book 2 fixed most of your complaints except experience. It's a much better game engine. Except some of those quests I've seen (have/had) require going to place which aren't doable on low level char. (for example killing Hive Queen) and health gain w/o sleeping is pia and if gets ambushed while sleeping by thugs or notroxidious lizards and isn't at full health its better to reload from earlier save. Echelon wouldn't be that bad if it had party of 4 instead solo, now char needs to be able to everything instead specializing to 1 thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Originally Posted By: Randomizer That's mostly due to not enough beta testers. There are only so many things that you exploit in each play through. Some of them got caught. A good chunk of it is due to certain mechanics whose design is obviously imbalanced, even in the abstract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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