Easygoing Eyebeast VCH Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Sergeant Nichol is that guy you meet at the beginning at A6. He brings up some really good points about building a safe haven in the food depot basement. Personally I wanted to stay with him and forget about Avernum's problems. If it wasn't an RPG would you have stayed with him? Given how poorly equipped your group is to start the game, and how common it is for people to be eaten in Avernum, staying seems like the smart thing to do. Plus you would have a lot of food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk ĐªгŦĦ Єяŋϊε Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 i would go nuts locked in a basement with the whole world outside having exciting things going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Was the all caps necessary? It hurts my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 After years of living in Avernum, the idea of a nice relatively safe place with a guaranteed food supply sounds great. Once you leave the basement you get repeatedly sent out to die. And then the reward for a job well done is a suicide mission to Formello. Take me back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan inni Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 no, with the world falling apart out there i would feel bad not doing anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 It depends. Is he hot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan inni Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 no, he's a grizzly old man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Goldengirl Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 One thing that I recall was critical to me, personally, desiring to leave that hole in a cave is the fact that its promises of safety were hollow. Avernum was slowly collapsing, and the food shipments from the Empire were getting slimmer. Sure, there was enough food to make staying at the Depot worth it, at the time, but how long would that stay true? Not to mention that the pressure of invasion by the Slith Horde, and the increasing chance of serious riots/banditry, made it clear that sitting around in a pit in the dark wasn't going to be the most beneficial course of action for you, or Avernum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Monroe Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Honestly, I'd take hordes of angry monsters over starving civilians any day. At least I would be able to sleep at night knowing I was keeping the slith horde from killing innocent people, whereas working in the food depot I would constantly need to turn away hungry, hard-working citizens. It was only a matter of time before you'd be called upon to violently subdue a mob of half-starved families, and I'm glad I was not around when that was happening. In fact, being more proactive is more likely to prevent that from happening at all. I mean, you live in Avernum, might as well go with an attempt at glory or quick death over a life of bureaucracy, which you could easily get in the Empire. Edit: I wonder why this isn't in the Avernum Forum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody RCCCL Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Originally Posted By: ΛΞΨ It depends. Is he hot? ROFL I chose no, simply for the reasons Goldenking stated. This topic sits fine in General, yes it has to do with Avernum 6, but little to do with actual gameplay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 The only thing I'm proud of is being part of the majority who decided to stay in the basement. Then again, I've never played the game. Also, my choice was realistic, not based on gaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Oh Wisebottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 No. The Slith Horde was advancing and my country was falling apart. Watching a near-depleted store room is not what I had in mind when I joined the army. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Tcheedchee Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 I found him much too depressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan La paix Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 I agree. He is depressing. And an annoying used-to-be. I may be wrong, but it seems to me that some people who say no might not really be putting themselves in the situation. Would you go off to war right now? Or would you prefer to stay at home? Of course, many people still sign up for the army today. Avernum has the advantage of giving you fame and fortune if you're a very successful soldier. I'm just saying that it seems that most people in this country (USA, and many others) aren't willing to go risking their lives for their country. If you are, I must say I am quite glad and impressed to hear it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Monroe Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Not just depressing, he was also kind of a weasel. Always talking about the suckers who got sent to the front. Always reminding you how lucky you were that he got you the basement job, like you owed him. Seemed more like an Imperial than a true Avernite to me. Not to sure about the analogy with America, though. I don't think I would go to war right now, I find the situation hardly dire enough. If we were beset by a Canadian horde that had already taken over Chicago and New York, then I'd give it more serious consideration. Don't think I'd sit idly by in the basement and let that happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan La paix Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 I agree with everything; I was just thinking that America will never be in that kind of situation, so now's as good a time as any. But you're definitely correct, and I would go fight if Canada got angry. Very angry. Now though, it's looking quite unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 My desire to face danger head-on is rather limited. I don't know how I'd end up in the army in the first place, but I suppose if I did I'd be happily on permanent storeroom duty. That said, I'm also living a cushy, peaceful life. You are too. Who knows how we'd act under truly dire circumstances? —Alorael, who doesn't find the argument that Avernum needs staunch front-line defenders compelling. It also needs back-line storeroom guards. There are many brave and mighty souls willing to go to battle against the sliths and other threats. There are also many timid souls who would rather cower. There may be shame in being the latter, but if you have the position and enjoy it you might as well keep it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 I Canada got angry, our standing military forces would be able to deal with it just fine, if military spending is any way to judge. Besides, Originally Posted By: Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass. Yay for liberal gun laws! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Remember, Nichol got the way he is because he has been on the front lines and he knows what it's like. He may not be the bravest person in the world, and he certainly didn't want to die, but when it comes down to it he'll risk his life for Avernum if that's what he's ordered to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Originally Posted By: Lilith Remember, Nichol got the way he is because he has been on the front lines and he knows what it's like. He may not be the bravest person in the world, and he certainly didn't want to die, but when it comes down to it he'll risk his life for Avernum if that's what he's ordered to do. Click to reveal.. That's what he DOES! He sacrifices his life to save those near the Great Portal when the incident happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 I didn't want to give away any spoilers too explicitly, but yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 I vote no on staying with Sergeant Nichol. Being locked in a basement with my commanding officer, that's...wrong, on too many levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Øther Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 I don't think that way. I doubt many people would in times of disaster. Maybe I'm wrong, but it doesn't matter too much to me. If my world is collapsing, then I really would enjoy having an at least temporary safe house with a constant, if small, supply of food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan inni Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 ha ha ha. 50% on both sides... but the lizards would still get you if you stayed so there's not much point in staying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Øther Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Originally Posted By: I need no introduction but the lizards would still get you if you stayed so there's not much point in staying. If you think that way then you are pessimistic and paranoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Originally Posted By: Other Originally Posted By: I need no introduction but the lizards would still get you if you stayed so there's not much point in staying. If you think that way then you are pessimistic and paranoid. It comes down to this: Die in a cave or die in a basement. Personally, I'd go with the basement. Sacrifice Sarge and hold out as long as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 The basement may temporarily be safe and have food, but it's really cold and does not contain any people who work their name into their speech at odd moments. Dikiyoba would leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Monroe Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 When the depot runs out of food, new recruits like you are going to be the ones that get eaten first, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Rionep Ecnirp Etlevs Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Could have eaten the goblins if you hadn't killed them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Originally Posted By: Rionep Ecnirp Etlevs Could have eaten the goblins if you hadn't killed them all. You can eat dead goblin. If you have to eat goblin, it's usually better this way. Quieter meals make for easier digestion. You know, Avernum probably really needs a serious, gourmet restaurant. Some place that doesn't think mushroom meal is haute cuisine. A place where you can get an Omelette aux yeux de Regardeur that isn't rubbery, and with the dazing effect timed properly so it lasts just until dessert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Avernum has a fine dining restaurant north of the Castle. However they were suffering both a customer and food source shortage when you stop in to visit. All I got was a loaf of bread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast VCH Posted March 5, 2010 Author Share Posted March 5, 2010 Staying is by far the more attractive option. It would be safe in basement for a long time if not permanently. And besides there are other heros in Avernum that could do all the dying for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Monroe Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 I wonder if the people who lived in Formello thought that same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Serene Tempest Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Nope. Avernum was in serious danger of being overrun and the vast majority of it's people slaughtered, but the war wasn't quite a foregone conclusion. That means the best way I could protect myself and those I cared about in the long run would be doing everything I could to avert that fate. I could do that on the front much better than in a basement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Failedassassin Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Since I have already died like, 10 times, on the easiest mode, I would stay with him. Together, we would rule the food depot, and build and army against the slith horde! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Ephesos Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Originally Posted By: Failedassassin Since I have already died like, 10 times, on the easiest mode, I would stay with him. Together, we would rule the food depot, and build and army against the slith horde! I find it hard to imagine an army built out of food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Sarachim Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Originally Posted By: Ephesos I find it hard to imagine an army built out of food. This is fortunate, or else the Labyrinth party would have had to fight one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Triumph Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Ehh...I remember the final battle at the end of Beauty and Beast (the Disney movie), and I don't think it'd be too hard to go from that to an army of food... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Originally Posted By: Ephesos I find it hard to imagine an army built out of food. All you need is the right combination of spells, and you're all set to have the ultimate food fight--where it's the food that does the fighting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Wiz Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Originally Posted By: Ephesos I find it hard to imagine an army built out of food. Clearly, you haven't heard of the Infernal Flaming Muffins! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Unplayable Playable Character Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Originally Posted By: Ephesos I find it hard to imagine an army built out of food. I actually find it quite easy to imagine an army made out of food. What I find hard to imagine is any practical use for it (as an army that is, not as food). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 it's not that infeasable. If they ever get apposable thumbs, we're all screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Milla Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Question, are chitrachs edible? Could have solved the food crisis as well as pest control. Has anyone tried? I remember in E3/A3 an encounter with some Vahnatai who were hunting chitrachs and they bundled some up in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 I don't think that it would be very good meat. You'd need trained hands to hunt them, tame them, and then farm them, and I've only seen a small handful of chitrach hunters in the entire series at any given time. I'm still pulling for Goblin Meat. Also, as a penelty for stealing food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Milla Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 That guy near Fort Dranlon had been taming chitrachs. Just hire some kill-happy mercenaries and tell them they can have any loot they find but to deliver all chitrach corpses they kill. There are your initial butchers. I bet the larvae would be tasty if fried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Triumph Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 I think the GIFTS eat chitraches... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Failedassassin Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Who are these GIFTS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Giant Intelligent Friendly Talking Spiders. There are some that appear in every Avernum game and the BoA scenario Vally of Dying Things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 In Avernum 5, Kingsley the Chitrach Hunter ate them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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