Well-Actually War Trall Spring Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Favorite Plauge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Blaspheme Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 I like the troglo, cause of their design. Their quest isn't too difficult, and after I attack the castle. The slimes and the crockoack (?) are nice too. I hate the giants cause they throw rocks, it doesn't make so much damages, but it takes time... Actually, I never finished the trilogy, cause I'm stuck in the Golem factory...So, I hate them too ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Princess Ruth Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Plague. Cockroach. And if you have trouble with the golems, then most people here will be able to help you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 I like the roaches. They're the only plague with any subtlety whatsoever from a plot perspective, and the Filth Factory is very fun to go through. —Alorael, who might put the golems first in Exile. Unfortunately, the Tower of Shifting Floors was a more irritating chaotic mess than the lasers could ever hope to produce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Spring Posted February 12, 2005 Author Share Posted February 12, 2005 Ohh I should of said mine. My favourite plauge is the cockroaches because the I really like killing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon The Almighty Doer of Stuff Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 I like the slime plague. It's colorful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall BainIhrno Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Troglos, because I liked the setup of this plague best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Cairo Jim Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 I find the Cockroaches and the slimes really annoying. I don't mind the Troglos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Armada Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 I'd have to say the Slime plague. Its most visible in its devestation on the surrounding area, and the NPC's have some great stories about previous slime invasions. I remember a scripted event or two where slimes oozed through the cracks in town's walls and the soldiers rushed out to meet them on the "Field of Battle" Of course, other plagues might be just as 'Colorful' But i never got too far into Avernum/Exile 3 without cheating. And when I cheat, i don't talk to NPC's or really explore my environment, its just a killfest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Starrodkirby86 Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Trogoles are the majority and they are sometimes cool but i don't like cockroaches ffor annoyance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toenail Returns Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 I sort of liked the Golems for the pure reason that it was the hardest, no one wanted or asked you to do it, and that, "the Vahnatai DID do it". I also liked the cochroaches because I enjoyed saving them, and then slaughtering all of them. WA-HA-HA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish TakenName Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 Roaches, the only plague that actually forced me to think beyond "There has to be a secret door". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast ben4808 Posted February 18, 2005 Share Posted February 18, 2005 Roaches, bacause of the non-hack'n'slash difficulty and the fact that it's the toughest plague in the unregistered version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer banned sapmmer Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 Troglo personally definitely . . . I have kind of forgotten how I did this . . . many months back already . . . but just because it is nearest to our own historical era. (** Unpleasanter Alert! - Please stop reading at this point if you do not enjoy babblings ^^) Many other R.P.G.s refer to Troglodytes as some sort of fish-man type thing. But in fact reference to Troglodytes dates back to those Greek writers when people liked to talk about fantasy tales of the unknown others. Big guys like Aristotles and Herodotos described the Troglos in detail. . .generally as 'cave dwellers' in the 'east'. It must have some exciting foundation for the formation of this historic-mythological people. . . (see 1911 Britanica for instance - Hey its not only you and me gaming maniacs who talk about this). In Exile Series, interestingly, Troglos seems to be pictured as a sort of 'Mongolian-Indians' as Victorian British would say from their experience in India. . . with mixed attitude of awe and contempt. . . Strong evidence from the 'Khazi' which according to Hobson-Jobson is <a title of Ministers of State used in Nepal and Sikkim, spelt Kazee or Cazee from Arabic> but more widely used as a local religio-political leaders among 'Indian' influenced world. Anyway, Troglodytes were always related to some sort of the 'oriental fantasy' rather than fish-men and I can think of no better embodiment than in EXILE. (Hey anyone with more information on Troglos? e-mail and enighten me pls) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 The word troglodyte means cave-dweller and comes from the Greek word for cave, so that definition makes more sense than fish-men (not a meaning I've ever come across). Jeff's troglodytes always struck me more as militant, somewhat bestial humanoids who enjoy killing, maiming, and destroying. The only real evidence for any real-world basis is the word "khazi," and that is arguable. He could have just taken an uncommon word and used it, or it could be either entirely coincidental or subconscious like the word "nephilim" for cat people. —Alorael, who certainly doesn't see any evidence of Indian culture among the troglos. The only trace of Mongol in them is their tendency towards mass violence, which could be likened to the Mongol hordes. Every invading army would seem Mongolian by that reasoning, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer banned sapmmer Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 Many Thanks Alorael, I wonder whether keeping this topic suit this particular thread. . . . reference to Troglodytes being fish-men I think I got from the Realmz and the Might and Magic . . . not sure better check . . . but the word Khazi should no doubt be credited to the word spelt in the same way in Indian literature but originally came from Arab and used in the Arabian Nights as well. . . well who knows what others used . . . About Nephilim, Yes, that reminds me that the name appears in the Genesis and some other OTs in the Bible, curiously though, as giants. Funny though, now my mind is fixed on Nephils being cats. No idea when or how they became cat people. Any one? It might be an interesting topic . . . ooops sorry, I don't think this should be in this string. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 Troglodytes being fish-like or lizard-like probably came from D&D, possibly through Tolkien (Gollum, after all, was both troglodytic and ichthyous). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toenail Returns Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 In Catholic beliefs, Nephilim (or however you spell that) are giants. I'm not sure where Jeff got the idea for the weird bird/cat people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Bird people? There aren't any in Exile that I know of. —Alorael, who would guess that it was a subconscious thing. He needed a name for his cat people and his brain provided nephilim. He used it without thinking on it too much. It turned out to be Biblical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt bogus standard candidate Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Golems. (the reasons are very similar to those listed above) The slimes were also cool. The roaches factory was very entertaining. The Troglo/Giant quest was nice, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toenail Returns Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Quote: Originally written by Generic Member #335: [QB]Bird people? There aren't any in Exile that I know of.......QB] I wasn't sure if they were bird or cat people. Or a mix of the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Imban Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 They are cats. There are no bird people in Exile nor Avernum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Spring Posted February 22, 2005 Author Share Posted February 22, 2005 Yes they are cats. There is two references that i can think of in Exile II and III. 1. Celine ( I think thats the name) in Exile II at Fort Ganrick says they are 'kitties' 2. Anaxamander called them felines i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 They are often described as feline or cat-like, the pejorative term for them is "kitties" (more frequently in E1 than E2 and E3), and they have fur. They don't really seem all that avian to me... —Alorael, who would be interested in knowing what memory suggested bird people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora Da Huuuuuuuuuuuuudge Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 I liked the Troglos because they seemed the most evil and they make sense. You don't really have to think to do the mission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toenail Returns Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Well Alorael, I just remembered the weird Exile II graphics for Nephil's being strange gray people with strange lines on their chests. I guess my brain just thought, "hey look, feathers!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Spring Posted February 26, 2005 Author Share Posted February 26, 2005 Im playing Exile II now, and they don't look like birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toenail Returns Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Well, they did to me. Are you using the newer graphics for Exile II? Because I had the really old graphic Exile II. Do you have the one where cave floor is blue or the other version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Spring Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 My cave floors graphics are kind of black, any-one who also has that version will know what im talking about. UPDATE ON THE POLL: Slimes 15% (4) Cockroaches 23% (6) Troglodytes 27% (7) Giants 12% (3) Golems 23% (6) Come on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Miriam Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 My favourite plague was Golems, I hated them SO much but you had to use skill to beat them so I guess its a respect thing. If I went for the most "fun" I'd say trogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish saintofsword Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Trogs for sure with their defenders and khazis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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