Garrulous Glaahk llloyd Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 So i wanted to know what would be a good way to spell a name that would be pronounced "Line-a" a being pronounced like the fonse says or another way of putting it "Lie-neigh" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Aran Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 Lynay? Or maybe Linae. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 Or Lynei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Or "Line A" so there's really no ambiguity. —Alorael, who also recommends IPA. Nobody will pronounce it right, but nobody will have an excuse to get it wrong either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk llloyd Posted November 30, 2009 Author Share Posted November 30, 2009 Ok by IPA rules it's spelled like this Laine. solves that, not correct font type that i need is here though, that being arial unicode MS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Originally Posted By: Alorael Nobody will pronounce it right, I beg to differ. Any Spaniard or Italian should be able to get it right in IPA spelling. (That's not generally true, but it's true with this particular word.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Laine will not get the final "A" sound you seek. Maybe Lainé? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk llloyd Posted November 30, 2009 Author Share Posted November 30, 2009 Then what sound does the e get by being there? The i is also wrong because, as i said, the font, but whateves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 In English, terminal "e"s tend to be silent. Laine would either be pronounced like "lane" or "lane"+"E". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Actually, "Laine" isn't quite "Line A" in IPA... it would be "Lainei". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Originally Posted By: Definitively Off-Topic —Alorael, who also recommends IPA. Nobody will pronounce it right, but nobody will have an excuse to get it wrong either. I've had to fill out official forms before where I was required to write the pronunciation of my name using IPA symbols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk llloyd Posted November 30, 2009 Author Share Posted November 30, 2009 O.K. i think we now are done, i think the Minstrel is right So, finally, we have Lainei, the first i being in Arial Unicode MS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Originally Posted By: Thuryl I've had to fill out official forms before where I was required to write the pronunciation of my name using IPA symbols. Really? Did they expect you to be familiar with IPA, or did they give you a key? Originally Posted By: llloyd the first i being in Arial Unicode MS. ...uh, what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk llloyd Posted November 30, 2009 Author Share Posted November 30, 2009 The first letter "i" in the word needs to be in the font Arial Unicode MS for it to be the right symbol for correct pronounciation of LaInei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I don't think you get how Unicode or the IPA works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Niemand Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Or in any other font which includes the character lowercase i, assumedly. Particularly since, as best I can tell, both i characters in your post are identical, being the code point U+0069, and thus no matter what font you use (excepting fancy behavior like the automatic application of ligatures) they will appear identical. Also, I'm not aware of that character having a particularly special appearance in the Arial typeface or the Microsoft Unicode Arial font specifically. In fact, I just tested, and the only difference from my system's Helvetica glyph is a slightly different height and baseline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk llloyd Posted December 1, 2009 Author Share Posted December 1, 2009 The only thing i know really is that the correct symbol is as described previously, so you are correct pretty much, but i am pretty sure that is the correct symbol when coupled with the a, the ai is one symbol and makes an eye sound. if i'm wrong correct me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 You're wrong, though only in the details. The a and i are separate symbols, one of which makes an ah sound, the other of which makes an ee sound. There is no IPA symbol for the eye sound, because it's a diphthong, so you simply combine a with i to get the desired sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk llloyd Posted December 1, 2009 Author Share Posted December 1, 2009 THAT...is...awsome i think, uh.....yeah it is, combination of two sounds to make an eye sound, much different than the sound made when your eye sound gets poked. that would be very bad, leaving you with pronunciation problems having to do with any word containing the letter eye. also what might happen is someone screeming "Ow, my eye sound, now i can never say lainei" very bad, never poke or otherwise jab somebodies eye sound because it could result in the inability to say lainei, or any other words with a and i combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Hypnotic Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I'm lost, but the New Rychu Avatar lookers better than the previous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk llloyd Posted December 1, 2009 Author Share Posted December 1, 2009 It was a play on words on how you can poke someone in the eye (sound). that's all, i thought it quite funny after reading it back to myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 And the e is pronounced like eh, so when combined with i you get ei which is pronounced ay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk llloyd Posted December 1, 2009 Author Share Posted December 1, 2009 but...but...then i can't poke anyone in their eye sound, unless i come up with another cool sounding name with an eye sound in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Edit: actually, in a fit of self-restrain, I'll edit this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk llloyd Posted December 1, 2009 Author Share Posted December 1, 2009 combination of the letters a and then i, and when put togethers are pronounced as if saying eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 No, as my post above says, ai is eye and ei is ay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slarzahl Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Surely you guys realize that orthography and pronounciation do not align on a 1:1 basis in English, particularly not for diphthongs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 We're talking about IPA here. Yes, I realize this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon The Almighty Doer of Stuff Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I think Lynei is the best suggested spelling of this name, if my opinion matters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I agree it's pretty good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Skomer Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Yum, IPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Originally Posted By: Skomer Yum, IPA. Thank you for doing what I wanted to do from the first mention of "IPA" in this thread. (though, I'd argue that the "yum" is false.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: Skomer Yum, IPA. Thanks, this thread was getting a bit dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk llloyd Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 personally i think llynay looks coolest, because y's are cool, as are double Ls, and the ay i personally like. other cool letters of mine are k, z and x, none of which are as cool as y. i am also a strong advocate for gettting rid of the letter c, k, or s because between the three there are only two sounds, that of the sss or cuh. a step forward would be eliminating silent cs. i do not get to rewrite the language though, but i can talk about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: Kyxzxy looks coolest This is pretty much the worst justification for a name ever, though. Dikiyoba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk llloyd Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 why? there are no other good justifications except maybe making it easy so people will not misspell it, or sounding good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 naming your kid Adolf Hitler "because he was famous" is probably worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk llloyd Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 thats extraneous, also i was going with good justifications, not bad ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: llloyd i am also a strong advocate for gettting rid of the letter c, k, or s because between the three there are only two sounds, that of the sss or cuh. But c vs k or c vs s distinguishes some words. I'd be more interested in renaming W. We could call it "woo", or "wa", or something. Much better than "double-you". Originally Posted By: llloyd a step forward would be eliminating silent cs. Eliminating what now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk llloyd Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 like instead of sicily, sisily, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 It would be Sisly, there's no I sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk llloyd Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 um...i don't know what you are thinking of but i was changing sicicly, the italian island, not whatever sicly is. also i would prefer if sickly was spelled sikly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Let's all cut letters out of words and put in other letters! I've got the sizzers and gloo rite heer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Personally, I think "Sicily" looks nicer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk llloyd Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 absolutly and definitly no attracting the thing *stares intently at mystic for the next 24 hours* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Also, the "s" sound made by the letters s and c are not always the same. Slight nuances in the English language screw everything up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: Celtic Minstrel I'd be more interested in renaming W. We could call it "woo", or "wa", or something. Much better than "double-you". Oh, I see how it is. You just think you're so much better than Ws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Hypnotic Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: llloyd i am also a strong advocate for gettting rid of the letter c, k, or s because between the three there are only two sounds, that of the sss or cuh. I have had the same argument. I vote semoving the letter C. C just Copies the sounds from K and S. That way there is no confusion about which sound the letter C actually makes. Silent letters should be banned. They have no purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: llloyd um...i don't know what you are thinking of but i was changing sicicly, the italian island, not whatever sicly is. also i would prefer if sickly was spelled sikly I know. It's pronounces SIS-ly. There is no "i" or "c" sound in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk llloyd Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 actually, not all silent letters, like ban or bane. can or cane, but it is true to switch to like pan pain and do ban and bain so the spelling of brain makes sense without an argumetn for it to be brane. ok i also vote removing silent letters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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