Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Of course they do. That was brain failure. But do bacteria have an equivalent to phagocytosis/pinocytosis or does everything have to be small enough for pumps? —Alorael, whose immediate reaction is no, but who can't find anything conclusive on the subject. By this he means Google and Wikipedia have let him down. If you can Google it for him better, go ahead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Prokaryotes don't carry out endocytosis, no -- at least, not in the same way that eukaryotic cells do. Some bacteria do have mechanisms for uptake of large molecules such as plasmids, but they're generally poorly understood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Artemis~ Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 If we came into contact with aliens, we'd all die, no matter their intent. Why? Diseases. Or, if the movie "Signs" is anything to go by, the aliens will react to water as if it were acid. YEAH! [that's a pretty old movie. I dont expect anyone to remember it. Signs revolutionized alien invasion movies!] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Originally Posted By: Artemis has Morals [that's a pretty old movie. I dont expect anyone to remember it. Signs revolutionized alien invasion movies!] A film released in 2002 is not old. I'm pretty sure most people will remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 That was an awesome movie. Speaking of awesome: District 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Swimmin' Salmon Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Every alien invasion movie must play second fiddle to the John Carpenter masterpiece, The Thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 The length of seven years depends on age. If you were seven in 2002, that's a long time. —Alorael, who also now wonders if Artemis missed twenty-some posts on aliens and diseases. He doesn't feel like putting forth all the anti-disease arguments again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt JadeWolf Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Carl Sagan is a master. Have you read the Dragons of Eden? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Enraged Slith Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Originally Posted By: Naughty Salmon Every alien invasion movie must play second fiddle to the John Carpenter masterpiece, The Thing. Definately one of my favorites. The earlier adaption of the short story, The Thing From Another World, is also very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt JadeWolf Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Oops, I believe I posted that on the wrong page. To get into the discussion on this page, I have to agree the Thing was great. I never have understood, was it a remake of the older black&white version, or not? (Having not seen the older one) Did you know Burt (The Grin) Lancaster's son did the screenplay? Originally Posted By: ΛΞΨ That was an awesome movie. Speaking of awesome: District 9. That wasn't that awesome. Rarely have I seen characters of such little intelligence, I felt like yelling at Vikus. Though I liked the concept, I think it could have been better made. The alien costumes (ahem, humanoids à la Star Trek), though were nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Humanoid aliens aren't Star Trek. Human aliens with, say, funny ears or spiky cheeks is Star Trek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Minor prosthetics to make aliens is a sci-fi staple. It helps keep effects and costume budgets reasonable, it keeps the actors from screaming in frustration (or pain), and it helps humanize the aliens. —Alorael, who just doesn't think Lovecraft-style aliens will catch on with the mass market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Cthutlu didn't catch on on the mass market? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Not very well, actually, but Lovecraftian horror probably has enough purchase in the sci-fi fan demographic that it would work. No, the larger problem is that squid-starfish-fungus aliens just lack some lovableness. —Alorael, who just doesn't think that Rule 34 and niches can make up for the fact that forehead wrinkles are a lot easier to empathize around than trilateral symmetry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Lacking lovableness? Not likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 That link doesn't seem to take Dikiyoba to the right spot. Is that true for anyone else, and is this link better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt JadeWolf Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Whoa. Looks like my teddy. (I 'modified' him when I was 7) Maybe this is why your link didn't work, Nikki. (Just the title) It's a pity really alien aliens are so rare. If aliens aren't people with donkey ears and flaky skin, they're really based on insects. Except for The Blob, of course. (and a few others, like the forementioned two Thing films) Though some aliens tend towards the absurd - giant fly swatters, anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Originally Posted By: JadeWolf Except for The Blob, of course. The Blob was a great movie, especially the original from the 1950's. I remember seeing a documentary on sci-fi aliens, and one person said the Blob was the best sci-fi alien ever because you never truly know what it is. Originally Posted By: JadeWolf Though some aliens tend towards the absurd If you want absurd aliens, watch Plan 9 from Outer Space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Hypnotic Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 My favorite Aleins were from Mars Attacks. They speak in Mack Macks and can only be defeated by horrible earth music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon The Almighty Doer of Stuff Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Originally Posted By: The Mystic If you want absurd aliens, watch Plan 9 from Outer Space. You should see the other movie From Outer Space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Artemis~ Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Quote: Alorael, who also now wonders if Artemis missed twenty-some posts on aliens and diseases. He doesn't feel like putting forth all the anti-disease arguments again. hmmm? no. she was just sayin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Then you could at least put forth the effort to say that you're ignoring the preceding discussion before stating something that has already proven to be fodder for unprovable but vigorous assertions. —Alorael, whose favorite aliens appear in non-sci-fi films. By accident. Nobody realizes that they're there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 And people wonder how he got his post count so high. EDIT: The hand may be quicker than the eye ... but ask yourselves this: where did post 184775 go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 I'm sure, late at night when there are no members active, he creates threads filled with nothing but hundreds of posts of AAAAAAAAA repeated over and over, then deletes them before anyone gets wise to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Shhhhh, you mustn't reveal mod secrets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Spiderweb has members from all over the world, many of whom don't understand sane sleeping schedules. Plus, there are all those secret lurkers. It's difficult for Spiderweb to be truly abandoned. (Well, except when it goes down, and it's hard to post during those times.) Alorael does something far more sinister and keeps all his double-posting and deleting in the Mod Board. And he's not the only moderator to engage in such nefarious posting schemes. Dikiyoba shall not mention any names, only that you should ask yourself why Student of Trinity was trying to draw your attention towards Alorael just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Artemis~ Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Quote: Then you could at least put forth the effort to say that you're ignoring the preceding discussion before stating something that has already proven to be fodder for unprovable but vigorous assertions. What? I'm starting to think that you concocted this thread to pick on me. Just because the matter was resolved 10 posts ago doesnt mean that I cant voice my opinion. It can't possibly offend you to the point of dedicating a whole post to chatise my late statement. It's not that bad. Honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Lets all take a big breath. No one is trying to offend anyone here, and there is no reason to get upset. That said, the only alien movies I can remember seeing are ET and My favorite martian. I haven't watched them in ages, and the later one always scared me (when I was like, 6). That's about my alien movie experience. The Ender's Game series, anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Originally Posted By: SOT EDIT: The hand may be quicker than the eye ... but ask yourselves this: where did post 184775 go? Quite easy: Post numbers are given to all posts across all boards. I would guess said post is probably somewhere in the Avernum 5 forum. I could go look, if you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 I did, however, double post. I got one of those "Spiderweb is dysfunctional" errors and reposted, figuring the original had been lost. It hadn't been. I buried the evidence. I don't do it much! Check the logs. I'll check them too, and then we'll see who is a skullduggerous rascal! —Alorael, who didn't concoct this thread. He also didn't mean to pick. He was mostly amused by the claim of disease, unaccompanied by any commentary on the long preceding discussion. It seems like a very good way to put the thread into a permanent disease discussion loops. Actually, a loop thread with literally copied posts would be a great way to boost post counts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Oh, dear. Did I neglect to mention that the Maya prophesied that if Master1, Dantius, and Alorael post in that order, the thread must be locked, and Dantius must personally copy the contents of each post into a new thread. If I don't, then the world may end. Sorry, it must have slipped my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Meh. So what if the world ends? By this time tomorrow, it will have restarted again. Dikiyoba is afraid the logs have a severe infestation of termites at the moment. Very large and angry termites. For your own safety, please don't view the logs, Alorael. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 There are logs? Where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 In Mod-land. This really is a great way to boost post-count. Drat, I ruined it by posting more than 5 words. Oh, and since I edited my post, the world will no longer end. Actually, I'm editing this post also. Do they cancel out, or add together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Originally Posted By: Oblique Spheroidal I got one of those "Spiderweb is dysfunctional" errors and reposted, figuring the original had been lost. I thought you mod-types would've learned what happens when you forget the weekly sacrifice to the UBB gods by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Artemis~ Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Quote: Alorael, who didn't concoct this thread. He also didn't mean to pick. He was mostly amused by the claim of disease, unaccompanied by any commentary on the long preceding discussion. It seems like a very good way to put the thread into a permanent disease discussion loops. Actually, a loop thread with literally copied posts would be a great way to boost post counts... If you really MUST know, my computer auto-scrolled down to the bottom of the page before i finished reading [automatically assuming that i wanted to quick-reply]. So I posted what I thought. Beleive me, I'm no trouble maker looking to make a loop thread to draw attention to myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt JadeWolf Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Originally Posted By: The Mystic Except for The Blob, of course. The Blob the Blob was the best sci-fi alien ever because you never truly know what it is. It's the Blob! Originally Posted By: Master1 The Ender's Game series, anyone? Me. When's the next one coming out? Though I had to read most in french, which made them not so good. EDIT: Don't worry, Rekhyt. As I have just demonstated, I too have a knack for replying to posts pages old. -.- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Sss-Chah Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 is the ender's game series worth reading past the first book? i remember reading that for summer reading in high school. also, like somebody else said, any resources the aliens would need could be found elsewhere with less of a fight. unless, of course, they're body snatchers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 The Ender's series gets to be more philosophy in the later books with tons of moral angst. I read the second and don't remember if I put up with the third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 It is really two series. Serieses? One follows Ender, some thousand years in the future as he travels to a planet that is home to a new alien species. Really interesting things, and a bit of philosophy. The books that follow Bean are more exciting, I would say, and don't have as much philosophy, although there definitely is a good bit. I recommend them to all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug Golgoth Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I liked the First ones about Bean and Ender, I just never really got into the later ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I've only read Ender's Game itself. A classic, I say! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Aran Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I read Ender's Game, and liked the story, but felt a vague sense of unease about the philosophical subtext. He didn't really push his views in the tale, but I got the feeling that the Card and I wouldn't find a lot of common ground. So I looked him up and it turned out that was pretty spot on, so yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Nalyd read about halfway through Ender's Game. Got really boring. Reread the part where they're [censored] him over with the battles like three times, trying to finish, and reading how he's being tested over and over while the more interesting characters sat on Earth and diddled themselves on the interwebs got too annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Swimmin' Salmon Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 He wrote a second series that concentrated more on the diddlers. I found it more interesting than his first tract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Originally Posted By: Arancaytrus I read Ender's Game, and liked the story, but felt a vague sense of unease about the philosophical subtext. He didn't really push his views in the tale, but I got the feeling that the Card and I wouldn't find a lot of common ground. So I looked him up and it turned out that was pretty spot on, so yeah. this is a good article about thatthis is a better one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk ĐªгŦĦ Єяŋϊε Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 wow those articles are almost longer than the book! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 No, they aren't. Thanks for posting the better one; it was a good read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Originally Posted By: Forundermore No, they aren't. Thanks for posting the better one; it was a good read. stephen bond rules and everything he writes rules even when he's wrong he still rules but in this case he's right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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