Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 At the ending of G5 I'm gonna guess that it had been roughly 300 years since the rediscovery of sucia island. You find remnants of the original shapers so old the the Sucia island researchers didn't know that they exist. So this puts the shaper empire as being very old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Hypnotic Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 I thought 2000 years. This going on what the Suicia serviles said about being abandonded thousands of years ago. Then again I didn't oay much attention so it may have been Hundreds and not thousands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Geneforge Timeline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Its at least a couple milenia old, or at least thats how old it was during G1-4. G5 really, really, screws with the timeline, saying things like Isenwoods Spire is only a few centuries old, and Mera was taken about three centuries ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 We all know how Jeff's memory is. A game is a game, is a game. I would go with what most games say. And we know that the Shapers like to change things to make themselves seem more powerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 That can be worked around by saying that the Shapers had control of Nodye and Lethia for several millenia, but only began expanding about 500 years ago, and only controlled Terrestia for the past 400 years or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 it is a bit of a discrepancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Spddin Ignis Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 the shaper's learned there art on sucia about 2000 years before 5. But the empire itseld only about 800 or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 No, 2000 years before 1. At least a century passes during the commencement of 1 to the end of 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 2 centuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Spddin Ignis Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 1 and 5? i beleive it was only about 1 century. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 My mistake, I miss read that. Yeah, probably a bit under a century Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Where are you getting a century from, even? G2 is 5-10 years after G1, probably closer to 10, and we know that G5 is no more than a few years after G4. Looking at what Alwan and Greta and Litalia say, there are clearly a few years between G3 and G4 -- but not too many. Maybe 5-10, again. So far we have a range of about 12-25 years, not counting the time between G2 and G3. That is potentially the longest gap, but I can't imagine it's more than 20 or 30 years, and it could certainly be less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Ghaldring's life is my measuring stick. He obviously wasn;t born in G1, but in G4 and 5 he is described as very elderly. Also, G2 is probably closer to 20 years after G1, otherwise all that research could have never taken place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 It is actually mentioned in G2 that they have only been there for a few months after Barzhal brought them there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 What, and they invented three new creations and designed another Geneforge in a few months, while it took the entire Shaper Empire years to do the same in G4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Yes. The Barzites and Takers were working together then, and they were using canisters and other Sucia Island tools. Plus, they weren't taking as many precautions. The Shapers didn't want to create rogue types. The researchers in Drypeak didn't care whether a creation type was independent-minded or not. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Plus, they had the advantage of not having to invent the technology, rather then just taking what they learned from the Shapers and then applying it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Where does it say Ghaldring is "very elderly" or anything remotely similar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Originally Posted By: Dikiyoba Yes. The Barzites and Takers were working together then, and they were using canisters and other Sucia Island tools. Plus, they weren't taking as many precautions. The Shapers didn't want to create rogue types. The researchers in Drypeak didn't care whether a creation type was independent-minded or not. Dikiyoba. It's also expressly stated that the new creations are just modified versions of old ones, rather than being designed from scratch. Gazers are based on vlish, drakons are based on drayks, and I think rotghroths are based on battle alphabets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 I like to point out that shapers didn't really need new creations till the rebellion came out. Until then they had no motivation to come out with radically new creatures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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