Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: Oskar Originally Posted By: Student of Trinity Heh. Maybe Jeff could make everything drop meat (or, where appropriate, mushrooms) upon death, including PCs. But then Return Life would effectively function as a Create Food spell. Well maybe to use return life you would require a certain amount (equal to the weight of the character you want to ressurect?) of meat on hand? Or maybe you would need "two arms, two legs, a torso and a head", giving you an actual reason to kill civilians. I always wondered why Return Life was a "good" priest spell, and not vile necromancy. Technically, you need the person's original body to resurrect them. This is glossed over in the game, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Erebus the Black Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Quote: Shankar's quest with her ogre servant has that as a possibility depending upon how much damage you do in a round. The ogre is subdued by the magic mark, so unless you attempt the quest when you are already very high level, there isn't much of a chance of killing him not on purpose (you can see when his health gets too low and then just stop the beating and let Shankar do her thing). What I mean is in case your enemy doesn't decide to do the sir robin thing and wants a duel to the death (or is in such a panic that he believes that killing me is the only way of him surviving) but I know that killing him is not in my best interest (or I'm just playing good cop), so I'd rather drag him to the local sheriff office and let him deal with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Originally Posted By: avatar42 so I'd rather drag him to the local sheriff office and let him deal with him. That would require monsters etc to be wanted alive rather than dead like A1-A5 has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Erebus the Black Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Not monsters, People. drug addicts to be interrogated as to where they got their drugs. Idiots who attack without thinking. Wizards that can be interrogated for their one of a kind spells and locations of special artifacts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Marak Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 I think Avatar has a point, sometimes it's disappointing that, after some significant or meaningful dialoge, the person goes Hostile and you know that there's only going to be 1 outcome: someone dies. It would be nice to have a "knock him out" ability (a spell, a battle discipline, something that might miss and can only be used on low-health Humanoids) so he/she can, in fact, be subdued and dragged back to the proper authorities and dealt with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 You gain an item: Tranquilizer Darts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk ĐªгŦĦ Єяŋϊε Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 it would also making it easier to steal stuff if you didn't have to kill everyone in your way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Jerakeen Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 You don't normally have to kill everyone in order to steal stuff. Or anyone, actually. The only exception I can think of is the Anama papers, and even then you don't have to kill more the one guard. You can run past the farmers without fighting them if you want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Marak Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Yes, we wouldn't want consequences for stealing =p Re: The Mystic Darts nothing, how about a Render Comatose spell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk ĐªгŦĦ Єяŋϊε Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Originally Posted By: The Turtle Moves You don't normally have to kill everyone in order to steal stuff. Or anyone, actually. The only exception I can think of is the Anama papers, and even then you don't have to kill more the one guard. You can run past the farmers without fighting them if you want to. i know that. what i was talking about was the items that are guarded. stuff on tables in stores etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Originally Posted By: Marak Darts nothing, how about a Render Comatose spell? That works too, since some people don't care for missile weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Nephar: Hey Cordelia, cast Mass Sleep spell so we can loot this town. Cordelia: Consider it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Originally Posted By: Earth2025 Nephar: Hey Cordelia, cast Mass Sleep spell so we can loot this town. The mass sleep spell in the Exile series didn't cover a wide area though, unless you got lucky with the spray fields spell. Oh wait, this thread wasn't about Exile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Ironweed Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: Excalibur Originally Posted By: Earth2025 Nephar: Hey Cordelia, cast Mass Sleep spell so we can loot this town. The mass sleep spell in the Exile series didn't cover a wide area though, unless you got lucky with the spray fields spell. Oh wait, this thread wasn't about Exile. Was there a Mass Sleep spell in the Exile series? Because I'm pretty sure there wasn't, at least not in E3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon The Almighty Doer of Stuff Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 There was the Sleep Cloud spell, which placed a 2x2 square of sleep clouds at the location of your choosing, although it had a very limited range. That and Spray Fields are the closest you get to a Mass Sleep spell in Exile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 There was also Mass Paralysis, which was pretty much better in every way. It was fairly expensive, but had a good chance to semi-permanently disable every enemy in sight that wasn't immune to magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Erebus the Black Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 and still no way to intentionally defeat your opponent without killing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 paralyzed/sleeping enemy is easier kill than non-paralyzed/waken enemy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Erebus the Black Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: Earth2025 paralyzed/sleeping enemy is easier kill than non-paralyzed/waken enemy. ???*blinking* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 It's true. Enemies who are asleep or paralysed will take double damage from all melee attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I never noticed it before, but it kind of makes sense; when you're paralyzed and someone whacks you over the head, there's really not much you can do about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 It's better than Realmz, in which any attack on a paralyzed opponent did immediately lethal damage. That was okay, except overpowered on anything not resistant to paralysis. And that included your party. —Alorael, who also noticed in Exile that the sleep immunity trait was mostly useless except for the times when it was essential. Fighting Gorgons without it was virtually impossible. Fighting them with it was trivial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Realmz got that from no less esteemed an influence than the Gold Box games, in which victims of the 1st-level magic-user spell Sleep were instantly killed if anybody even tried to attack them. Frankly, this is a pretty realistic implementation: if somebody's asleep or totally paralyzed, you can take the ten seconds to set up a neck-cleaving blow, or whatever, and they can't dodge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Originally Posted By: Lest we should fail in utterance —Alorael, who also noticed in Exile that the sleep immunity trait was mostly useless except for the times when it was essential. Fighting Gorgons without it was virtually impossible. Fighting them with it was trivial. It also made it more feasible to use Sleep Cloud in battle if you didn't have to worry about avoiding your own clouds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Realistic, yes. This is also the game in which invisibility acts mostly to protect you from being attacked if you move away from an enemy. It won't protect you from regular attacks, just movement attacks. —Alorael, who concludes that Realmz was, indeed, poorly balanced. A revelation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Sss-Chah Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 i have an accuracy suggestion: don't name the leg armor vambraces. i know it's already been done in a couple games, but vambraces are actually armor that goes on your forearms, not your legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Marak Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Indeed. You could use "Vambraces" as a synonym for "Bracers". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 That's a good suggestion. I would actually suggest emailing that to Jeff -- he might appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Leg armour is greaves, right? If I recall correctly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Neptúnus Hirt Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Greaves are, historically, pieces of armour used to protect the shins. That's according to my dictionary, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Well, the shins are part of the legs, so calling leg armour "greaves" would be better than calling it "vambraces"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Leg armor comes in pieces. Sabatons cover feet, greaves cover shins, cuisses cover thighs, and poleyns cover that difficult bendy knee between the cuisses and the greaves. —Alorael, who notes that non-plate armor gets different names. Mixing and matching poleyns, chausses, and schynbalds might get a bit too complicated. It also brings Progress Quest to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 just call them iron pants and be done with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Sleeping Dragon Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Warcraft calls them legguards or legplates, which, while not the most clever or historical of word choices, gets the job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 There should also be bronze pants, steel pants, and blessed pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Marak Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Don't forget Radiant Pants. =p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Khoth Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 You people are making me wonder what Swamp Pants are made of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Originally Posted By: Khoth You people are making me wonder what Swamp Pants are made of. You don't wanna know so don't ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Ephesos Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Plexiglass pants! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Originally Posted By: Student of Trinity There should also be bronze pants, steel pants, and blessed pants. Nah, mithril pants are all the rage these days. Originally Posted By: Khoth You people are making me wonder what Swamp Pants are made of. Peat! As an added bonus, the pants also work as a source of fuel. (Even though peat comes from bogs and not swamps, but whatever...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 But metal pants, to me at least, implies woven metal... so more like chain mail than plate mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Originally Posted By: Ephesos Plexiglass pants! <img src=http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/images/c/c6/Plexpant.gif> Brimstone is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toby-Linn Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Wow, this game just sounds so good.....I can't wait till it's released for Windows! I just wish more screenshots would be posted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Sss-Chah Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 jeff said he thinks it's already been fixed, but he'd make sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Originally Posted By: Sss-Chah jeff said he thinks it's already been fixed, but he'd make sure. You're a beta tester? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Sleeping Dragon Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Pretty sure he just emailed Jeff regarding the vambraces naming problem as was suggested. Good job Sss-Chah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Sss-Chah Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Originally Posted By: Sleeping Dragon Pretty sure he just emailed Jeff regarding the vambraces naming problem as was suggested. Good job Sss-Chah. yeah, that. i figured since i'm the one who brought it up, i might as well follow through with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Mike B. Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I could not wait for the Windows version of A6 so I bought a Mac! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Wow, you must really love the games if you went to the extent of buying a new computer. And here I was thinking I was a big fan... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Marak Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Heh, yeah, I just finished A5 and now the wait for A6 just got a whole lot longer... but there's no way I'm going to buy a whole new computer just to get it a little earlier =p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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