Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 It's an American thing. Here cider is presumed soft unless labeled otherwise. —Alorael, who supposes this probably says something about national character. Yes, world, Americans are lightweights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Sleeping Dragon Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 We even made alcohol constitutionally illegal at one point! We didn't hold out very long, though. Now we have the mafia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Apple cider (soft, of course) is delicious. I can't wait for it to come into season. I've never had egg-nog, and I really don't think it's something I'm worried about. I've never enjoyed alcohol. The few sips of wine I've had were nasty, and hard liquors smell nasty. Beer smells and tastes bad as well. I really don't see the attraction, although I've been told it comes with age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I'm not sure it's age exactly, but an acquired taste. Not for alcohol itself, which is just nasty at any age. But alcohol is a good solvent for a lot of strong flavors, so a lot of interesting tastes are in alcoholic beverages. Also a lot of powerfully bad tastes. This is in principle why there is such a huge range of prices for wines and liquors. The bad stuff is really bad, but the good stuff is pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: Sleeping Dragon We even made alcohol constitutionally illegal at one point! We used to consider hard cider the norm before that point, though. Dikiyoba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: Khoth I had no idea that there were things called cider that didn't have alcohol in them. I'm glad I'm not the only person here who thought that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: Master1 I've never enjoyed alcohol. The few sips of wine I've had were nasty, and hard liquors smell nasty. Beer smells and tastes bad as well. I really don't see the attraction, although I've been told it comes with age. Yeah, alcohol tends to be an acquired taste. And as I said earlier in this thread, you're not missing much. For me, the novelty of drinking alcohol wore off early; I was an altar boy at one of the local churches, and was volunteered once too many to help finish off the communion wine after mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Are you even allowed to do that? I thought the communion wine was special or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: Student of Trinity Never make eggnog with scotch. Some recipes call for it, but it tastes really awful. Scotch is fine straight or with water, if you like scotch, but it doesn't really mix well with anything. try it with butter i don't think that's actually how you're supposed to make butterscotch but if you have enough of it it starts to taste good eventually Quote: Brandy is much nicer in eggnog, but rum is probably best of all, or a mixture of rum and brandy. using rum for any cocktail except a daiquiri or a mojito is pretty much a waste Originally Posted By: Khoth I had no idea that there were things called cider that didn't have alcohol in them. it's okay, i didn't know this until i was about 17 the thing called cider that doesn't have alcohol is apple juice with pulp in it by the way Originally Posted By: The Mystic Yeah, alcohol tends to be an acquired taste. And as I said earlier in this thread, you're not missing much. For me, the novelty of drinking alcohol wore off early; I was an altar boy at one of the local churches, and was volunteered once too many to help finish off the communion wine after mass. so if you wanted to conduct a church service in the middle of a lake would you need an altar buoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Add sugar and butter to rum and you have the two essential ingredients of deliciousness (fat and sugar) and a common additive (booze). How can it go wrong? —Alorael, who was surprisingly old when he learned that hard cider and soft cider really are the same drink but for the alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: Master1 I thought the communion wine was special or something... Once it's consecrated, I don't think you're allowed to put it back. So if you plan for too many people, you have to do something with the extra. Dikiyoba is another one here who dislikes alcoholic beverages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: Dikiyoba Originally Posted By: Master1 I thought the communion wine was special or something... Once it's consecrated, I don't think you're allowed to put it back. So if you plan for too many people, you have to do something with the extra. And I remember hearing somewhere that it's considered some kind of sin to waste it, so it pretty much has to be drunk. [sarcasm]And don't worry that you're making a twelve-year-old rather intoxicated, since he's got a designated driver anyway. Plus, the teacher will understand why one of her students has a hangover come Monday morning, since he goes to the Catholic school next door.[/sarcasm] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I just hope communion wine is better than the standard kosher wine. —Alorael, who would consider drinking Manischewitz a penance, not a blessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 sacramental wine is pretty good but also quite strong, it sometimes has extra alcohol added as a preservative to bring the alcohol content up to 18% i bet it'd make good sangria i think i need another drink now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon The Almighty Doer of Stuff Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Originally Posted By: Master1 Apple cider (soft, of course) is delicious. I can't wait for it to come into season. It is in season. Where are you in the world, roughly? I'm in New England which of course is the place people usually think of when they think soft cider, so that may be why I can get it and you can't, if you're somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Swimmin' Salmon Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I'm in Oregon, also in the mid-lats, where we also grow apple trees commercially. Hard cider, at least traditionally, is what happens naturally to cider. Cider itself is the result of a process that involves first macerating whole apples, and then crushing the resulting pomace so that all the liquid is separated from the solid. It has no pulp, and isn't apple juice. If you have extra hard (real) cider, a neat trick is to freeze it. The resultant liquid is highly alcoholic, and is called applejack. (ps, Thuryl, rum in Australia is a LOT different in taste than that commonly found in the states.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Originally Posted By: Naughty Salmon (ps, Thuryl, rum in Australia is a LOT different in taste than that commonly found in the states.) That's kind of a sweeping statement to make, considering how many different kinds of rum there are in the first place. oh hey i remembered a few other valid uses for rum: mai tai, long island iced tea, pina colada, hurricane rum and coke is also acceptable as long as it's not very good rum and you don't want to impress anyone with your good taste (and before you ask, no, even adding lime and calling it a cuba libre will not impress anyone) egg nog is still not on the list though dammit, now i want a mai tai but i don't think i have any orgeat syrup in the house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Originally Posted By: The Almighty Doer of Stuff It is in season. Where are you in the world, roughly? I'm in New England which of course is the place people usually think of when they think soft cider, so that may be why I can get it and you can't, if you're somewhere else. I'm down in the Mid-Atlantic. It probably is coming into season, and I just haven't noticed yet. I'll have to check when we go shopping today or tomorrow. Originally Posted By: Thuryl rum and coke is also acceptable as long as it's not very good rum and you don't want to impress anyone with your good taste (and before you ask, no, even adding lime and calling it a cuba libre will not impress anyone) My mom's favorite drink is Rum, and she has been known to drink rum and coke. Now, keep in mind that this is a woman who drinks maybe 3 glasses of wine a year. We have some rum and other stuff above the fridge. Half of it (at least) is older than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Originally Posted By: Master1 I'm down in the Mid-Atlantic. It's always nice to see how people from all over the world come here. Is this why, in the zombie thread, the first thing you thought of was a big glass dome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I'm not sure... I just thought that would be a good way to keep brainless monsters from entering a place. I've only been here in Maryland for a little over two years now. I'm a Midwesterner at heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I live in the Mid-Atlantic too, and I'm very confused as to what you're talking about, SoT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dintiradan Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Student of Trinity and myself very much doubt you two live 'down in' the Mid-Atlantic. On the coastline, perhaps? (Yeah, I'm a spoilsport.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Maryland, just north of Baltimore city. Technically, Maryland is a southern state, so yeah, I'm living "down in the mid atlantic." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Atlantic_States I don't think I've ever heard Maryland described as southern. It borders the north side of DC, it was a border state in the civil war, and these days it has little in common with the south when it comes to politics, industry, or anything else, really. So I'm curious what you mean, Master1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Maryland had slaves. That makes it Southern enough. —Alorael, also considers it prime winter zombie territory, which also makes it southern enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Also, the Mason-Dixon line, the line for separating north and south, is the MD, PEN boarder, so I call it southern. Barely. And Slarty, the wiki site's graphic on the right says that the striped states (Maryland and below) are sometimes considered Southern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Hmm. A little googling reveals that the issue is not as clear-cut as I thought. The general consesus appears to be that Maryland has clear Southern heritage, that a decent chunk of it "feels" more Southern in terms of geography, but that the majority of its population live in the areas with a more Northeastern culture. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Southern weather and northern culture, sounds about right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 But what about sweet tea and downhome cookin'?!!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 'fraid I don't know enough about local culture. We're not really southern culturally, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Having been to Maryland many times, I can honestly say that I would not call its weather southern. Sure, it may be a little warmer down there than here in PA, but it's a far cry from the oppressive heat and humidity of the deep south Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Forgive me. I have Wisconsin Blood. Summers here [in Maryland] get très hot. I've never really been farther south for more than a few days, so I consider it southern. Or at least more so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 You know, I can only parse that post as asserting that Wisconsin is Southern. I am forced to conclude that you mean Maryland so that I can sleep at night. —Alorael, who supposes that only states bordering with Canada can acceptably claim Northernness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Originally Posted By: Tyranicus Having been to Maryland many times, I can honestly say that I would not call its weather southern. Sure, it may be a little warmer down there than here in PA, but it's a far cry from the oppressive heat and humidity of the deep south My country is still colder than yours, bucko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Niemand Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 On average? Probably. Absolutely? I doubt it, as almost all of Alaska is north of England; compare Climate of England with Climate of Alaska. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 For that matter, it regularly gets colder here in Pennsylvania during the winter than it does in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Well sure, you can prove anything with facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dintiradan Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Hi guys!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Heck, even Northern Nevada gets colder than England (which is about the same latitude as Maryland). Ever ride a bike in 0 degrees Fahrenheit? (~-18 Celsius) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 ever waited for a bus when it's 20 below, not counting the wind chill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 I camped for a weekend at 40 below. (That's where the two scales coincide.) In fact I slept one night in a hollowed out pile of snow. I had an air mattress and a good sleeping bag, so I was cozy. Noteworthy was that when somebody failed to connect the fuel tank properly to the naphtha stove (it's a fussy connection), the naphtha that sprayed out all over the stove case froze instantly. In fact the fuel pipe became blocked with frozen naphtha. Then somebody else apparently mistook the blockage for normal ice, and decided to melt it with a lighter. Fortunately they were bright enough to do all this outside the tent, because the resulting pillar of fire was a good four feet high, and lasted several seconds. (The fuel did not freeze solid in its tank, so I figure the freezing of the sprayed-out mist was an interesting effect of self-cooling by evaporation. Or maybe we had just kept the tank warm; I forget, now.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Yes, Maryland. I can't remember any specifics, but I've been in some pretty cold places. Our friends have a cabin up in northern Wisconsin, and we wintered there once. The plumbing was frozen solid, and the outhouse was frozen too. We used the foot or so of ice to brace the pillar for the pier out in the lake/pond thing. It was a long time ago, but I remember it was very cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Originally Posted By: Excalibur Ever ride a bike in 0 degrees Fahrenheit? (~-18 Celsius) Originally Posted By: w of the dueck clan ever waited for a bus when it's 20 below, not counting the wind chill? Ever rotate stock in a walk-in freezer that had a malfunctioning temperature gauge? The gauge was stuck at 2 degrees Fahrenheit, and since it was supposed to be 0 degrees or cooler, the refrigeration unit kept running and running and running, making the actual air temperature around -30 Fahrenheit. Originally Posted By: Student of Trinity Noteworthy was that when somebody failed to connect the fuel tank properly to the naphtha stove (it's a fussy connection), the naphtha that sprayed out all over the stove case froze instantly. In fact the fuel pipe became blocked with frozen naphtha. Then somebody else apparently mistook the blockage for normal ice, and decided to melt it with a lighter. Fortunately they were bright enough to do all this outside the tent, because the resulting pillar of fire was a good four feet high, and lasted several seconds. Reminds me of the time I was stupid enough to spray lighter fluid on a fire I had going in a barbecue grill. Burned all the hair off my right arm--and I count myself lucky that's all I burned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Originally Posted By: The Mystic Reminds me of the time I was stupid enough to spray lighter fluid on a fire I had going in a barbecue grill. Burned all the hair off my right arm--and I count myself lucky that's all I burned. I once turned the gas on to the barbeque, with the intention of lighting it, but I got distracted and went off to do something. When I came back to light it, a wall of flame shot up through the grill and burned a bunch of the hair off my hand. Yeah...it's kind of stupid to leave flammable gas running... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Today in Chemistry, our teacher couldn't get the Bunsen burner to light. He would crank up the gas, try to light it, and fail. He eventually got it going, and ended up with a flame fluctuating from 8 to 12 inches in height and 1 to 3 inches in width. Funn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Originally Posted By: The Mystic Ever rotate stock in a walk-in freezer that had a malfunctioning temperature gauge? The gauge was stuck at 2 degrees Fahrenheit, and since it was supposed to be 0 degrees or cooler, the refrigeration unit kept running and running and running, making the actual air temperature around -30 Fahrenheit. Worse than that, I've spent a couple hours in one doing inventory. Although, I think ours was on down to -20º. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Rowen Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 This conversation makes me think of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Originally Posted By: Master1 Today in Chemistry, our teacher couldn't get the Bunsen burner to light. He would crank up the gas, try to light it, and fail. He eventually got it going, and ended up with a flame fluctuating from 8 to 12 inches in height and 1 to 3 inches in width. Funn! What's more fun is when you accidentally drop lithium into the barrel of the Bunsen burner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Originally Posted By: Excalibur Originally Posted By: Master1 Today in Chemistry, our teacher couldn't get the Bunsen burner to light. He would crank up the gas, try to light it, and fail. He eventually got it going, and ended up with a flame fluctuating from 8 to 12 inches in height and 1 to 3 inches in width. Funn! What's more fun is when you accidentally drop lithium into the barrel of the Bunsen burner. Last year, I stuck a bunch of potassium into a beaker full of water. Thankfully, my nose wasn't an inch from the beaker like it usually was. Alkali metals ftw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Originally Posted By: Excalibur What's more fun is when you accidentally drop lithium into the barrel of the Bunsen burner. Nononono, you've got it wrong. What you do is powder the lithium, and add it in small quantities to a mixture of iron oxide and aluminum. The result is thermite, a powder that, when lit, will reach over 2500 degrees Fahrenheit. Have fun melting through the engine of your car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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