Rotghroth Rhapsody Hypnotic Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Okay but do keep in mind that it will be relativly easy to destroy you. Quick example run through: Vlish blimp is flying towards the mainland. A Gazer of Dantiuses is suspicious and shoots it. Vlish blimb has a hole and starts to sink. Sorry, all your layers of clothes drag you down. Tyrant gone and ashen isles are saved. Of course it is never to late to change a few details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 First it is quite easy for him to loose his heavy clothing. Second The vlish blimps are decently armored and arrayed. while not invincible attacking a large number in formation without comparable forces is dangerous. Thirdly the vlish blimps inflation sacks are a sponge like material that consist of thousands of tiny sacks instead of just one big one to give it some resistance to popage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Spddin Ignis Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I don't think that thousands of tiny sacs will resist the "popage" that will occur due to a gazer blast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 each sac can be popped and a gazer blast that penetrates the hull will pop a decent amount of these sacs but won't be enough on its own to bring down a vlish blimp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Hypnotic Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 How many Vlish blimps are there. Not that the Doctors would know anything or be able to post about. Pretending to be ignorant of everything is counterproductive but extreamly fun in its own way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I think the real question here is: are Vlish blimps capable of feisty tentacle slaps of pain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Hypnotic he started off with about 100 and is now down to 70 with another 50 in production Dantius: I prefer to elaborate on their abilities in character Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Hypnotic Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Lol , I think we should stop now. its like we are running an interogation here. Well, certainly vlish blimps are the way to go for transportation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Spddin Ignis Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Please explain in more detail. Is this like bubble wrap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I guess it could be described as across between bubble wrap and a sponge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Quote: Looks like the ultimate transportation Only if it has the tentacle slaps. Otherwise no, it is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Spddin Ignis Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 So lets say you were to use frostbolts and froze the vlish balloon, then you could use pretty much any attack ant theoretically shatter the balloon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 freezing would be a a very hard task. One would be more likely to die due too overwhelming fire power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Spddin Ignis Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Not if its being frozen by a cryoember...then you would most likely die to overwhelming fire power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 NO! Bad Spddin! No overwhelming firepower! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Hypnotic Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Spddin your embers are an answer to everything it seems. Lets rewveiw. 1) Need more firepower, make an ember. 2) Get rid of drypeak serviles, send an ember. 3) Doctors are invading, attack with embers. ?) Vlish blimps? Meh send an ember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 meh I'm not that worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Spddin Ignis Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Ember is the name of one Cryoember, which is the species name. Anyway, i clearly outlined its weakness, and yet no one has used it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Hypnotic Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Simpley because we dont know its weakness. We can only find out its weakness if we attack it which is basically just me right now. I cant find out its weakness because it retreated when it fought me. I say ember because I am to lazy to write cyroemeber all the time. It works though cos you know what I am on about. Okay I will try and type Cyroemeber from now on. At least in the IC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Spddin Ignis Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Ok. But there's not much about it. Its a drakon without the magical abilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Hypnotic Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 That loves the water and can also fly. Totaly resistant to fire and Ice. Shoots ice instead of fire. Resistance to some physical damage. Has runes for skin. Is intellegne so no mental effect. Wont go rouge cos its loyal. Yeah sure just a drakon with minor changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 First does anyone have any objections to me attacking white spire? second Spddin it just comes across to me that Cryoemeber is just too much. Their are few examples of things more powerful then unbound that could be controlled. Titans in the pit might be the only one because I can't remember if he could control it or not. Everything that powerful in the geneforge world is either went rouge killing a lot of things or was extremely hard to control, without exception. Instead I recommend you coming up with a strategy involving more then just throwing the most powerful creature you got at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Hypnotic Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Well as you know from our talk that whitespires is a perfect target for you so no objections. Just talk with Acky first since he may be attacking there also. We had the huge talk about Cryoembers. Belive it or not this is the toned down version of them. occording to G5 the unbound couldn't be contolled but these new versions for the Rp can. Things with intellegnce go rouge as (Geneforge) history proves. All of Spddins creations have huge intellegnce but are "Loyal" so don't go rouge. I am imagining a slider right now that is broken. Under normal circumstances its either set at loyal on one end and intelegnce at the other. Cryoemebrs have both so I don't see how it works but appernatly it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I would like to attack them when I wake up tomorrow but I don't like to make two consecutive posts. So someone go ahead and post already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Hypnotic Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Beware of Talonfire. A slow blumbing blimp is no match for the pride of the ESC. You may want to have a specif strategy formed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Originally Posted By: Safey Titans in the pit might be the only one because I can't remember if he could control it or not. Shaper Monarch most definitely did not have the Titan under his control. He didn't have anything in the challenge area under control. (But Shaper Monarch wasn't exactly known for his ability to control what he created.) Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 It's not a sliding scale of intelligence/loyalty. Servant minds are intelligent, some around human level, and extremely loyal. They're also little pigs in a basket, incapable of surviving on their own. The rule is Don't Overpower. Flying, perfectly loyal, fire&ice-immune, physical-resistant, rune-skinned, ice- firing Drakons seem overpowered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Hypnotic Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Originally Posted By: Lord Grey The rule is Don't Overpower. Flying, perfectly loyal, fire&ice-immune, physical-resistant, rune-skinned, ice- firing Drakons seem overpowered. You forgot immune to mental effects Servent minds are intellengt and loyal because they have no choice. If they are not loyal they would die. In G5 when the servant mind gained the ower to shape, only then did it go rouge because it had the means to. Serviles were made unintellegent and nearly all the smart ones went rouge. All the qotes throught the series said that shapers wanted their creations dumnber so they were easier to control. Look at what happened with gazers drakons and drayks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Gazers are intelligent, and loyal because they are smart enough to know what's good for them. I made a somewhat-filler IC post. The capture of Quessa Uss comes next, for now I will be content to just battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Hypnotic Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Your gazers are loyal to other Gazers + Dantius. It dosn't really count. It the same as a Shaper being Loyal to the shapers. Its expected. Whats not expected is that an intellegent creation being loyal to the poeple who made it, even though they would kill it without a second thought if it came to it. Nice post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Originally Posted By: Hypnotic It the same as a Shaper being Loyal to the shapers. Its expected. My shaper isn't loyal to the shapers. Intelligence and implies that it can think for it self and if not throughly brain washed those thoughts aren't necessarily be approved. Even servant minds left alone long enough will go mad and rouge and their arguable the best example of a loyal intelligent creature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Nioca Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Originally Posted By: Hypnotic Whats not expected is that an intellegent creation being loyal to the poeple who made it, even though they would kill it without a second thought if it came to it. Butting in here a minute: What's so unexpected about that? If the creature is as intelligent as a human, it's fairly reasonable to assume that they'd also have an emotional range as well. Even if the creation knew that their creator meant nothing but ill, that creation might still be loyal for any number of psychological reasons. Furthermore, the Geneforge games have it in canon that there's a bond between Creator and Creation, and that it's at least somewhat similar to the bond between parent and child. Therefore, it's not at all unreasonable that a new creation would be completely loyal, even if it's intelligent enough to know that the Creator meant nothing more than to harm it or let it die. One last note: you seem to be mistaking Loyalty for Obedience. A person can be completely loyal to another, and still do things that fly in the face of what the other person wanted or commanded. The Icaran Talonfire was like this: It was completely loyal to Antares, but when it came right down to it, Talonfire made its own decisions. Anyway, since I'm posting, I'd like to point out that Safey effectively lost any right to complain about someone else having overpowered stuff the second his Vlish blimp one-shotted Talonfire. Making a rough extrapolation, this means that a single tentacle slap from a vlish blimp does roughly 5000 damage (counting about 2500 in just HP, plus an additional 2500 to bypass resistances). Allow me to reiterate: A Vlish blimp is capable of one-hit-killing a creation that can take on an army of Unbound singlehandedly. Meh. Back to you, Ackrovan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Getting smacked by something as big around as a tree (a large tree)is going to have ill effect. Keep in mind that particular section of that post was being told from the perspective of the overlord and just because he think talonfire is dead doesn't necessarily make it so but their is a fine line between being able to withstand something and coming away unscathed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Hypnotic Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Shaper safey: I said Shapers loyal to shapers is expected but does not always happen. There is a difference between What you thinks going to happen and what does (Doing probaliblity at school). The shapers themselves arn't a uniform group so some devitation to the rules does not make them disloyal. Nicoa: Okay I see your point about Loyalty and obedince. Yes all the geneforges do have the creator and creation bond but how far does that strech and to whom does it apply to? Drakons don't obey their creator nor are they loyal. Its all about persepctive and the case in point. For this we are talking about Cryoembers. They obey their masters, and are 100% loyal without a second thought while being intellignt to reason that they should have some free will, yet do nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 All right. The moment you have all been waiting for- Dantius takes on Quessa Uss with seven creations. And an army, too, but we don't hear about that. Where is everyone? General hasn't seen a post in days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 I have posted a truly epic IC post. Yeah, that's right, I killed Ghaldring with Force Lightning. What now! WHAT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Hypnotic Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Nice post but ghaldring is already dead. He and all the council members died. unless he escaped in which case a little footnote would have been nice. I really want to post but I can't until spddin replys to my PM's. All I can do are filler in posts with Vidara and Dymas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: Dantius I have posted a truly epic IC post. Yeah, that's right, I killed Ghaldring with Force Lightning. What now! WHAT! I'll have to read it when I'm not have asleep. I become illiterate when sleep deprived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Sleeping Dragon Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Why was Ghaldring still alive in the first place? I thought the premise of this RP was that the conclave was gone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 If any of the conclave survived it would be Ghaldring. So I'm willing to tolerate it. I also sorta of though he was above the conclave and never truly apart of it. What gets me though is why is he in a weaken state. Aging happens because your genes deteriorate due to the cells making to many copies of them self. Changing them will help slow or even reverse this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 1. He survived by not being at Gazaki Uss. 2. He was still alive because of one of those life-preservers, like Alwan had. 3. As such, that would make it very difficult to travel. 4. So, he stayed in Quessa Uss, where he successfully escaped the death of the Conclave. A fairly simple way to escape death... for a little while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: Dantius 2. He was still alive because of one of those life-preservers, like Alwan had. I had been under the impression that excessive canister/geneforge/self-shaping use made one ageless. It was one of the base assumptions I made for the overlord. Gharlding went through many self shapings and getting old should not have been a problem for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Dantius: Yeah, umm, its been a century since the events of G5. Ghaldring is dead by age, not by murder. Sorry, I thought it was a no-brainer. e/w, killing the actual Ghaldring, even in his age, is too.......far fetched, to put it nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: Master Ackrovan Dantius: Ghaldring is dead by age, not by murder. My guy is one of the original Suci researchers so where does that put me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Wrong. Using canisters makes it hard to tell age, but immortality has never been attributed to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 you sure? I remember it saying in one of the effects of the geneforge was to give one unnaturally long life. shaper monarch had been old enough that neither the rebels nor the shapers could account for him. I was sure that selfshaping extended ones life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Originally Posted By: Lord Safey Originally Posted By: Master Ackrovan Dantius: Ghaldring is dead by age, not by murder. My guy is one of the original Suci researchers so where does that put me? Well Acky, in his first post, established it has been about a century after the end of the rebellion. Sucia was 200 years before the rebellion even started. Ghaldring is very old in the last few games, so put his age in the eighties, meaning that from the moment that Sucia was rediscovered, it's probably been another century. So, that's about 400 years since Danette was alive. Note that your guy would probably have to have been pretty well-established to be put on Sucia, so he's at least fifty. All in all, he's pushing 450. Please note I do not have a problem with this, just so long as you don't put him in the Danette-Definel-Corata triad, who are ALL dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Hypnotic Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Doctors have self shaped aging away so I'm no one to critisise. Although no canisters were used just very advanced genetic research. Think I might introduce a pet for one of my leaders. Not sure if it will have any lasting effect. Dymas needs some hobbie aside from critisising everyone. Hmm mabey a pet ornk. They never do get enough attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Originally Posted By: Dantius Please note I do not have a problem with this, just so long as you don't put him in the Danette-Definel-Corata triad, who are ALL dead. He was high enough to gain considerable access to all the research but still low enough to slip away unnoticed in the chaos of the abandonment of the island. So no I never intended for him to part of the triad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Okay, fine. But attach some strings, please? Something like if his canister supply is cut off, he'll die in a couple of months, or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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