Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Thank you everyone for agreeing to play. Here are the ground rules. Only the moderator (me) and people who are playing the game and are alive may post here. Anything else will be instantly deleted. The current living players are: Alorael Andraste Ash Lael Bloodmoon Doom Warrior Excalibur Marlenny Omlette RCCCL Sarachim Sleeping Dragon Sporefrog Tarson Thuryl Xelgion Wz As Some ground rules: 1) If you are playing PLEASE READ ALL THE RULES. They have been updated since the last game. 2) Private communication is allowed. 3) Submit your actions to me by way of PM in the thread I started with you. If I cannot figure out what you want to do, I'll simply ignore it, so try to be clear. 4) Actions will be processed in the order they were received when I get around to them. Read the rules for how often you can submit and any other exceptions. 5) Please posts all rules questions in your PM with me or in the rules topics. 6) If you are not playing or dead, please do not influence the game. You may look, but not touch. Otherwise, the game begins: Friday, July 10 at 1:00 AM EDT If you do not communicate with me within 24 hours of me sending it to you, you may be replaced. Just a reminder, no actions that kill anyone will be processed until after a day has passed. Also, the game will end at the latest on: Wednesday, July 15 at 1:00 AM EDT *** Moderator Shop Antidote (15) Resistance Elixir (30) Wand of Death (60) Assassin Leather (60) Crystal Spire (60) Flaming Sword (60) Fury Crossbow (60) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Any player who needs coins, please contact me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 That seems like a rather odd thing to broadcast publicly... Anyway, does anyone know what kind of merchants are present in this round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted July 10, 2009 Author Share Posted July 10, 2009 The moderator shop is now open for business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted July 10, 2009 Author Share Posted July 10, 2009 Machrone publishes: Q) What are two of the random roles (slots 13-16)? A) Anama Hunter and Vahkos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Sporefrog Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 AHHHH VAHKOS, EVERYBODY RUN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 How are we supposed to know that Machrone knows what he's talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody RCCCL Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 If anyone knows who Machrone is, ask him, he would have received coins if he answered it correctly. If not, scold him and make him eat this Panic Cake he's made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted July 11, 2009 Author Share Posted July 11, 2009 Just to clarify the rules. Machrone receives 5 coins once per day from answering a question on the day it is given. This is given whether it is right or wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Sporefrog Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I hope *I doesn't have an aneurysm from all the actions going through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted July 11, 2009 Author Share Posted July 11, 2009 The killing begins! The first victim is... SARACHIM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted July 11, 2009 Author Share Posted July 11, 2009 Another one bites the dust. SLEEPING DRAGON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ash Lael Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I'm poisoned, and need an antidote fast. I will offer any help of any kind I can if someone can provide it to me. I would also like the identity of Ronaldo, for obvious reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Well, I guess now we know who the Fae is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Omlette Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 It's fairly well established by now that there isn't a Ronaldo in the game, I think. -E- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ash Lael Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Ronaldo exists. He's one of my targets. Thuryl is allied with him, I'm pretty sure. Come on, people. I killed goddamn Vahkos before he laid a hand on any of you. A little gratitude here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ash Lael Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Omelette, you're friends with Ronaldo. I'm sending someone after you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Øther Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Someone told me that you were a DL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted July 12, 2009 Author Share Posted July 12, 2009 Machrone publishes: Q) What is the role of one of the Darkside Loyalist targets? A) Machrone Q) Who started with the Fury Crossbow? A) Bloodmoon Q) What are the names of two Anama members (living or dead)? A) Marlenny and Alorael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted July 12, 2009 Author Share Posted July 12, 2009 Oh no! Another corpse uncovered. XELGION Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted July 12, 2009 Author Share Posted July 12, 2009 The killing continues! WZ AS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted July 12, 2009 Author Share Posted July 12, 2009 The bloodbath proceeds. RCCCL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted July 12, 2009 Author Share Posted July 12, 2009 And the blood continues to flow... ASH LAEL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted July 12, 2009 Author Share Posted July 12, 2009 I think I'm all caught up with actions. Still a few more trades that I'll wait until morning to process. Sorry, been a long day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted July 13, 2009 Author Share Posted July 13, 2009 Machrone publishes: Q) What are two of the random roles (slots 13-16)? A) Anama Hunter and Pure Spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted July 13, 2009 Author Share Posted July 13, 2009 The carnage keeps on coming. ALORAEL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted July 13, 2009 Author Share Posted July 13, 2009 And the band marches on... ANDRASTE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Good work, all of you. However this turns out in the end, I hope I've been a satisfactory villain and kept your lives interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Sporefrog Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Since this game has already been horribly mangled, I want to bring into question the process by which commands are submitted and validated. Here's the situation that I've noticed several times throughout this game: "Person1" has an enemy. Said enemy uses an ability to kill person1's friend. Person1 cannot kill "enemy" until he gets an item. Person1 submits an action to trade for the item that makes it possible for him to kill "enemy." Because he has to wait for the trade to get through, possibly equip it, use it, whatever, the enemy kills him before he ever finishes going through the lists of actions he has to submit, laboriously, to *I -- even though enemy went through an entire 24 hour cooldown during which "person1" should have gotten to attack him. In this situation, "enemy" has a huge advantage because he has a simple role, whereas "person1" relies on more complicated mechanics, and *I simply does not process everything fast enough. What's funny is, this is when person1 has 24 hours to work with. If it's a situation where both players just have to attack each other, and whoever gets the command in first gets the attack, there's just no chance whatsoever for "person1." I think the rules either need to be reworked to include conditionals, such as "if/when person X trades me item Y, use it to kill person Z" Or, allow people to submit every action they want to do at once, then just make any actions fizzle if they cannot be performed at the time they're processed. At one point I had to use an item, sell an item, trade an item, accept an invite, and use an ability all at once. That's ALL to counter one person's "attack player X." I think *I maybe needs a helper, it's just unfair to be at a disadvantage because your schedule isn't tuned to the mod's schedule (see Alorael). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted July 13, 2009 Author Share Posted July 13, 2009 Machrone publishes: Q) What is the name and role of the person who bought the first item from the Moderator Shop? A) Sporefrog as Alchemist Q) Who was the first person to join Gladwell? A) Xelgion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Sporefrog Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 I'm not blaming *I's inability to be logged in 24 hours a day, by the way I can't imagine how much work this game has been to sift through. I just wonder if there's a way to fix these problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted July 13, 2009 Author Share Posted July 13, 2009 I'm just really busy during the summer. Normally it's not this insane. We'll talk about this once the game ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted July 13, 2009 Author Share Posted July 13, 2009 The dead has risen. ANDRASTE is seen walking around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Marlenny Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Originally Posted By: Sporefrog Stuff We got really screwed over because of this. But Stareye is already doing a great job and no moderator of the game should be forced to spend 24 hrs going over it, so what we need are suggestions on how we can beat the time without it being much extra work. My suggestion: I recommend that instead of: You must wait 24 hrs from when your last action occurred or was processed, you have to wait 24 hrs from when you submitted your last action. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Originally Posted By: Sporefrog Since this game has already been horribly mangled, I want to bring into question the process by which commands are submitted and validated. Here's the situation that I've noticed several times throughout this game: "Person1" has an enemy. Said enemy uses an ability to kill person1's friend. Person1 cannot kill "enemy" until he gets an item. Person1 submits an action to trade for the item that makes it possible for him to kill "enemy." Because he has to wait for the trade to get through, possibly equip it, use it, whatever, the enemy kills him before he ever finishes going through the lists of actions he has to submit, laboriously, to *I -- even though enemy went through an entire 24 hour cooldown during which "person1" should have gotten to attack him. I've submitted pairs of actions along the lines of "Recruit X as bound servant, then compel X to kill Y" and they were processed correctly. I imagine "trade 20 coins for Wand of Death, then attack Z with it" would work just as well. That's not the sort of thing that the "no conditional actions" rule was put in place to prevent, I don't think. You still have to wait for all the actions to go through, but you don't have to refresh your browser window every 5 minutes waiting for PMs from Stareye. You can generally queue up an action and it'll be processed as soon as it's valid, as long as you don't do something ridiculous like queueing up two days' worth of actions at a time. I'm a role that's more reliant on what other people are doing than most, AND I'm in a vastly different time zone than Stareye. Marlenny is in the same position on both counts, and she managed to do pretty well too. While I probably would have benefited from more timely processing of actions, I don't feel that the way Stareye ran the game seriously disadvantaged me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted July 13, 2009 Author Share Posted July 13, 2009 Let's have this discussion later, please. Oh dear! Another body discovered. MARLENNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Sporefrog Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 If you want specifics, andraste should have had me and marlenny (and omlette) donate 20 coins to her about 10 hours before she was killed, then buy the wand of death, then kill you, then attack someone else. Instead by the time she got the coins she was dead. You were on cooldown, she was not, but her actions couldn't get processed fast enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Come to think of it, the right way to solve all of these timing problems would probably be with a small offsite web application that handles all actions automatically, if that were possible. It'd only take a day's work to set up and it'd save time in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted July 13, 2009 Author Share Posted July 13, 2009 I have been thinking of the application idea. It would be great if someone with more skill in those sorts of things than I would be willing to develop it. I do think it would take more than a day's work with the game's complexity, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Whoops, sorry, I was writing that message while Stareye was posting. I'll save the rest for after the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 (Although I am dead, this might be acceptable. *i may take me to task if it is not.) What would really help is having all actions fire 24 hours from the last action taken by that player, being able to set up queues for several days, and yes, conditionals (including things like, for instance, "If X offers Y trade, I accept." Much of this would work better with an external site. Some would work better if *i were not the only game-runner. —Alorael, who now has bouncing around in the back of his head the idea of a new role whose power is giving other roles additional actions. Tough to balance, but everyone's friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted July 14, 2009 Author Share Posted July 14, 2009 More blood! OMLETTE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted July 14, 2009 Author Share Posted July 14, 2009 When will it end? BLOODMOON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 Someone back from the dead. MARLENNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Øther Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Wow. Two people. There must be zombies around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Sporefrog Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 When does the game officially end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 4 hours and 15 minutes from now, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Tarson Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Originally Posted By: *i Wednesday, July 15 at 1:00 AM EDT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Sporefrog Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 If you have any extra coins or items, and your victory condition is met, feel free to send them to Tarson to ensure everyone alive wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Except me, you mean, what with Marlenny needing me dead as a victory condition and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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