Kyshakk Koan inni Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 the mind would have been killed anyway, the shapers killed every thing one the island even the creations loyal to the shapers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: A Figment Of Your Imagination You find him somewhere around Elrah's tomb, I believe. It's a demon trapped inside a golem that lives in a series of caves with a bunch of other golem-minions. Someone please confirm this. This is one of the three, yes. Another is hidden in the Magus Complex. The third is in the Taker lands. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Unplayable Playable Character Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Thank you Diki, I now remember finding all three. @ Spddin, you have to take into account that it was around before the shapers left. But I think I remember something somewhere saying about restricted lifespans. Don't know where. It could've been a new law set by the shapers as a reaction to the rebellion though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan inni Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: A Figment Of Your Imagination @ Spddin, you have to take into account that it was around before the shapers left. But I think I remember something somewhere saying about restricted lifespans. Don't know where. It could've been a new law set by the shapers as a reaction to the rebellion though. after the rebellion the shapers stopped making minds that lived for a long time. i think it was gf4 that i learned this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Unplayable Playable Character Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Thanks for confirming this, that was probably where I heard that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: Dikiyoba Originally Posted By: A Figment Of Your Imagination You find him somewhere around Elrah's tomb, I believe. It's a demon trapped inside a golem that lives in a series of caves with a bunch of other golem-minions. Someone please confirm this. This is one of the three, yes. Another is hidden in the Magus Complex. The third is in the Taker lands. Dikiyoba. Actually, one is north of Ellrah's tomb, one is just outside the final Taker complex, and one is inside the final taker complex. None are in the Magus complex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: Dikiyoba Another is hidden in the Magus Complex. Originally Posted By: Dantius None are in the Magus complex. There are, however, many regular golems in the Magus Complex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Unplayable Playable Character Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 I don't remember one inside the final taker complex, but there definitely is one inside the Magus Complex. It wants you to kill that borderline-crazy Shaper working with the Awakened (Don't remember his name). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Originally Posted By: A Figment Of Your Imagination I don't remember one inside the final taker complex, but there definitely is one inside the Magus Complex. It wants you to kill that borderline-crazy Shaper working with the Awakened (Don't remember his name). Yep. There's a demonic shade in the Experimental Chambers of the Magus Complex who wants you to kill Tuldaric. There are no demons inside Benerii-Uss. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 I'm not sure that counts as a golem though. I remember the shade, but I though we were talking about possessed golems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Unplayable Playable Character Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Tuldaric, that was his name. Anyway, this brings to mind another memorable moment from GF2, spending the first five minutes of the game pressing shift-D and typing iwanttobestronger in the box repeatedly (don't judge me by that, I was an immature gamer back then). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Originally Posted By: Master1 I though we were talking about possessed golems. No. We are talking about the demons in G2. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 We were talking about Demons in general. The only time any demons were placed in Golems is in G2. Edit: Dikiyoba shouldn't cut in front of the Archon if Dikiyoba know's whats good for Dikiyoba. Edit 2: Dikiyoba will do whatever Dikiyoba wants. While we're on the subject, a lot of cool innovations in G2 didn't make it into the later games, strangely. Followers, Demons, NPC made artifacts. etc Quote: Anyway, this brings to mind another memorable moment from GF2, spending the first five minutes of the game pressing shift-D and typing iwanttobestronger in the box repeatedly (don't judge me by that, I was an immature gamer back then). Ahh, those were the good old days. Walking around with 15 points in Melee weapons, just eating up all the enemies with a dagger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Unplayable Playable Character Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 If by followers you mean non-creation party members then they're still around, just not as common. Also, I guess magic anvils make npc-made artifacts more or less obsolete (there is puresteel, but I've never tried it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Originally Posted By: Ackrovan Followers I don't remember them. What do you mean? Quote: NPC made artifacts Everything from G3 on had the enchanted anvil crafting system, so it's not like it just disappeared. It was just reworked. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Quote: If by followers you mean non-creation party members then they're still around, just not as common. I preffered it when there was just a list of NPC's that were waiting to be picked up. Quote: Also, I guess magic anvils make npc-made artifacts more or less obsolete Not really. There are still some things that a rookie rebel/apprentice wouldn't be able to make, even with the proper ingredients. Quote: (there is puresteel, but I've never tried it). Err, there's no objects that can be made with Puresteel in G2. Quote: I don't remember them. What do you mean? That confused Thahd near the farmer who lost his servile, the Vlish that was stuck in the Alpha bridge camp, the Servile Warrior that was residing in the Melcanion Eye's hideout, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Unplayable Playable Character Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Originally Posted By: Chris Kringle Quote: (there is puresteel, but I've never tried it). Err, there's no objects that can be made with Puresteel in G2. I meant in the newer games, you bring puresteel to an npc, they make/modify stuff for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Originally Posted By: Ackrovan Quote: If by followers you mean non-creation party members then they're still around, just not as common. I preffered it when there was just a list of NPC's that were waiting to be picked up. Oh, you did mean recruitable NPCs. Really, the demons are the only thing you listed that disappeared from the series. The other two just work differently. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Quote: Really, the demons are the only thing you listed that disappeared from the series. The other two were just ruined. FYT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 I am positive that there was a demon somewhere later in the series. I think it was in the final complex for G3, then. Give me a moment to check. EDIT: Yep, a demon golem lurks in Beneeri-Eo in G3. Close enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Spddin Ignis Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share Posted December 28, 2009 I still would call the "Diabolical Spirit" in G5 is a demon, but of course it could be anything else. And there is one in G3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Corrupted One Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Originally Posted By: I need no introduction the mind would have been killed anyway, the shapers killed every thing one the island even the creations loyal to the shapers. I vaugely recall the Obeyer ending stating that the leader of the Obeyers was able to see his obedience rewarded as his followers were allowed to live out the rest of the natural lives. Maybe I'm remembering it wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Originally Posted By: Corrupted One I vaugely recall the Obeyer ending stating that the leader of the Obeyers was able to see his obedience rewarded as his followers were allowed to live out the rest of the natural lives. Maybe I'm remembering it wrong though. That is correct. However, that ending isn't canon. In fact, no ending is canon; G2 has a version of events that is slightly different from anything that appears in G1. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Corrupted One Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Ah ok. But in regards to the OP my favorite moment has to be creating my first Dryak in G1. I remember expecting it to be able to talk and provide advice and expected more of a companion than just another creation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 No, the canon ending is the unaligned nocanister one where both Gottesch and Trajkov are killed. Everyone on the island is killed, but (here's where the retconning starts) two of the dozens of Shapers sent to sterilize the Isle stole the secrets and escaped. All it is is adding information- nowhere is there a contradiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Corrupted One Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 I wasnt aware there was an unaligned nocanister ending. Do you simply not pledge your loyalty to any of the factions, abstain from canister use, and destroy the geneforge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 My favorite moment was the power rush of useing the geneforge in geneforge 1 and then ending it gave were your rage unlocks its true power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Originally Posted By: Lord Safey My favorite moment was the power rush of useing the geneforge in geneforge 1 and then ending it gave were your rage unlocks its true power. This. There are no other total powergamer endings in the series- you always end up subordinate to someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Neossokrass Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Well, you ended up a demigod by the end of G2 in the Barzhal ending. I always got the impression that you became mroe powerful in that ending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 I have to disagree in genforge 2 you manage to hold off the shaper empire with the help of the Barzhalites in Geneforge 1 you can do all by your lonesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Neossokrass Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 No, you walk off into the wilderness and create you own mini-kingdom, far away from the Shapers reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 in geneforge 2 the area the barzhalites hold was consider a black water it wasn't exactly set up right next to shaper citadel either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Neossokrass Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 They expanded and eventually came into full confrontation with the Shapers. So you would have been fighting much more in the G2 ending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Lord Safey Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 yes but the shaper empire hunts you down in the wilderness and we know that the shaper empire eventually spreads to most of terristra in both endings you will eventually come into full confrontation with shaper empire its only stressed more in G2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Hypnotic Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 The "Dark Golem" is G5 is not a demon. Its a rouge Golem. The only rouge golem in the series. It dosn't attack until ordered (Like an Ordianry Golem) but still powerful and different. The servant minds on Sucia lived for hundreds of years so the Shapers than wouldn't have considered it living longer than normal. Servant minds age changed when the war started. You do infact find this out in G4 in Illya where there is a lone Shaper. A servant mind that is 30 years old is considered old in G4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Zummi Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 I <3 the Barzite ending in G2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Milla Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 My interpretation of demons in geneforge. Entities from another dimension which can only manifest in the real world as a shade of some sort (infernal to be exact) or summoned into hosts/container. Basically anything supernatural in Geneforgeworld is some sort of insubstantial spirit thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Theophilus Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Me my favorite is in G5 where we have killed the servil to finish the demo. Is the most difficult battle of the demo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Reading this thread and seeing someone mention Benerii-Uss from G2 reminded me of a memorable moment. My endgame Shaper had several Gazers at that point. At least 4, maybe more. So I was clearing out some Taker lab, and I sent my big googly blobs of death north in teams of two, knowing they could take on pretty much anything that way. My wimpy Shaper stayed safely well behind, casually poking through containers for loot. And got attacked by a deadly team of Servile Hunters, who had spawned somewhere off in some previously cleared corner of the lab, and were apparently stalking my Shaper specifically! I had already played G2 at least once at this point, and never met these nasty guys; and nothing like this had ever happened in G1 or anywhere else in G2. Nor did it ever happen again in later games. As it happened my Shaper manage to hold the serviles off with a Reaper baton and dazing long enough for the Gazers to rush back and save his bacon. But it was a serious panic. Then of course there was my defeat of the Titan in G4, with a creationless servile on Torment. After the usual long ordeal, the Titan's final form finally died — and my Servile was left with one pixel of health, no energy, and two fresh hostile Rotdhizons next to him — after having killed the Titan with his first strike of the round, thus being unable to simply run away. So I clicked on one of the Titan's defunct machines, which allowed me to move after attacking, and then on a distant Ur-Glaahk that I didn't have enough AP to reach. This got me far enough away from the Rots that they went for my charmed Kyshakks instead of me, and the next round I was safely out of there, victorious and alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Wingnut Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 my fav moment is the final battle against galdring or whatever his name is.. when the game ended i actually had a tear in my eye... i hope they keep maknig theese games!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 What i like most in Geneforge, more than the shades, more that the Shaper crypts with their crescent stones, more than the batons and the living tools, more than the holding, the tombs, than Kantre's realm, or the winding road, more than the most daft ornk, is the first canister you get in G1, iconic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish kenn5 Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I'm back guys. My favorite moments were in G2(mostly) just the feeling of that amazing game (I played it when I was like 9 or 10 for the first time) still gets me nostalgic. G2 was the best in the series for me, but I guess you already know why, lol. I remember when after I played shaper I few times I played guardian and got to those baton tree, man was that hard. I also remember uses the trainers for G2 ALOT of times after I finished the game. I remember when I played G1 (after playing G2 alot of times) I was at the end of the demo and I was a powerful shaper, I had like 30 thudds, on command (or was that because of the trainer), it was crazy. Jeff, please either restart or continue the geneforge series man, or at least make another good rpg series! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 That nifty Shaper origin story in G1, in the NW corner of the map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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