Spddin Ignis Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Tell me what is your favorite basic creation and why. If you choose fyora give a reason other than "Because it's cute." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A less presumptuous name. Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 In this game, it must be the tralls. No one can match their physical damage or their resists. However, last game it was probably the Kyshakks or wingbolts. Probably wingbolts, as Kyshakks (I think) didn't get their lingering attack until this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkdread Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 rotgroth, not only they hit hard, but after that the enemy is covered in acid so you can concentrate on another enemy and the first one is still losing health because of the acid. And they are cool too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acky Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Gazers, but you forgot to add them. The Last Archon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Øther Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Mine would be the trall, since it has ranged physical damage, and is pretty powerful, or the rotter with it being pretty tough and haveing poison or acid damage. But I chose Ornk because it is just fun to make, and because I can cheat and make it powerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki. Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Fyoras, and especially the ones in the earlier games. Because they *are* cute. In G5, I found a new respect for glaahks. A couple of glaahks, blessed and covered in Thorny Aura, were enough to pin and take down a Gazer with little fuss. Plus, the stunning ability is always nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punctuation rains from the heavens Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Drayks, because they are the most interesting, and actually add to the game world instead of just being a pile of numbers attached to a Poser model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trakovite Mitchell Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 I use 2 War Trall which I edited into the first part of the game, now somehow level 41 and can prove one hit kills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilith Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Originally Posted By: Master1 In this game, it must be the tralls. No one can match their physical damage or their resists. However, last game it was probably the Kyshakks or wingbolts. Probably wingbolts, as Kyshakks (I think) didn't get their lingering attack until this game. Kyshakks have had lingering damage from their lightning aura attack since G4. The problem is that their direct damage plus the lingering damage is still less than the total damage from a Wingbolt's attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin95 Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Drayks, hands down. They really form the cornerstone of the entire storyline, and are always interestingly dynamic in their pursuit of self-interest. No drayks -> no Eass -> no Ghaldring -> no rebellion -> no prolonged war -> no plot after G2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punctuation rains from the heavens Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 That's part of the problem, the other problem is that Wingbolts in G4 had craaaazy energy resistance. Since Wingbolts themselves were one of the most threatening enemies, this was more helpful than the higher HP Kyshakks get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spddin Ignis Posted April 13, 2009 Author Share Posted April 13, 2009 Thats what makes kyshaaks better, their higher armor. If a wingbolt is not getting damaged than it is the best i the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilith Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Originally Posted By: Shaper Spddin Thats what makes kyshaaks better, their higher armor. If a wingbolt is not getting damaged than it is the best i the world. Actually, wingbolts have slightly higher armour than kyshakks. Kyshakks do have more HP, but it's a flat numerical bonus, which gets less significant as you level up your creations. As Slarty points out, wingbolts survive better than kyshakks against magical damage, and most of the strongest attacks in the game (Unbound, gazers, other wingbolts) are magical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmisary of Immanence Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Wingbolts are tanks in the sense of armored things with big guns. Amusingly, one of their big weaknesses is other wingbolts. They don't take damage, but they also don't really deal very much. Rotghroths are also a nice fourth tier creation, but I don't think they quite shine like wingbolts until you get rotdhizons. Hundreds of damage (including acid) twice per round and solid survival make them great swarm killers, great hit and runners or chasers (they run fast!), and quite good in general because their damage works well and isn't heavily resisted. As a bonus, they do resist all that nasty acid. —Alorae,l who honestly only uses tralls for their projectiles once he has rotdhizons. He likes them far more than any acidic zombie thing deserves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Glaahks. A single vanilla Glaahk can stunlock a lone Servile with no magic and creations, providing the servile has a damage threshold of under 600. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkdread Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Wingbolt against wingbolt? I found that that was one of the worst engagements. My wingbolts were doing about 100+ damage to every enemy they attacked, but when directed to another wingbolt (or gazer) they rarely reached more than 80... It seems that physical damaged worked better against enemy wingbolts. (I was using a rebel warrior btw) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilith Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Wingbolt vs wingbolt matches are slow and annoying, but you have the advantage of being able to heal, so they're not particularly difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lander Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Fyora. First creation I ever got to make when I started playing the Geneforge series. A traveling buddy who was almost as handsome as me... Good times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blurb Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 It was a hard call. Rotdhizon wasn't a choice, so I picked rotghroth. It really is a close tie with wingbolts, though. If you have both of these in a Shaper party, it takes some real effort to lose a game. Drayks and war trolls also are awesome, and I always have them in my party, but they are really just there to pick up the pieces when the others meet resistance. Kryshakks have a great missile attack and lots of health, but they appear to have a too-high miss ratio. Does anyone know the stats on this? Their missiles seem to miss a lot. Also, for a good part of the game, the clawbugs and vlishes do a great job. I don't think either goes to the end game very well, though. Artillas have been longtime sentimental favorites of mine, but I wasn't crazy about them in G5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lander Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Oh wait, we were deciding based on.. uh, effectiveness and stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zummi Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Not really. I like charged thahds(G5 one) regardless of they not being in the choices. They're like mini-rots for the early stages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dikiyoba Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but to me rotghroths seem a bit squishy. Dikiyoba's favorite creation is the cryoa. They're very good creations when you get them and you can keep them alive and useful throughout the game without too much difficulty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrix Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 you can make a Podling and a Patchwork.how!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spddin Ignis Posted April 14, 2009 Author Share Posted April 14, 2009 scripting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmisary of Immanence Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Rotghroths aren't amazingly durable. They do fine, but I don't think they're good end-game tank material. Rotdhizons do much better (as they should, since they cost more than war tralls). No, you can't shape podlings or patchworks without modifying the game, and once you do that your favorite creation might as well be an army of Barzahls. —Alorael, who actually thinks that might be a strong recommendation right there against shaping humans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xelgion Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 No shaper doors, servant minds, serviles, unbound, batons, spores, pods, living tools or levers? Booo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ratt Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 You forgot control panels, Xel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enraged Slith Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Battle Alphas, just because. If you don't like my reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaper_medej Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I think the war trall is the best one once i got it i went through the whole game with them they are just good against just about anything (there are a few that they suck against) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrix Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 i know you can make them by scripting but you can make every thing with scripting,but they don't count as the creations you can make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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