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I just recently came across Spiderweb Software as I was looking for something to scratch my turn-based rpg itch.

 

I started playing Avernum 5 and I'm really enjoying it! It's pretty much exactly what I was looking for. It's awesome to see people are still dedicated to this game genre. It's very true to a D&D style turn-based rpg. The turn-based rpgs from Japan typical of the FF series are fun, but I much prefer the Avernum game style.

 

I'd love to hear any other game recomendations. I'm sure I'll have finished the demo soon and will be looking to buy a couple of game licenses. What are the most favoured of the Spiderweb games?

 

Thanks!

 

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Avernum 5 is awesome. You're in for a fun ride smile Avernum 4 has the same engine as Avernum 5, but to my opinion is not quite as good. It lacks the feelings of exploration and interest, and its not really needed to learn about the setting of A5 (I learned this from experience lol). A1-3 are all good games as well, although they are on a very slightly different engine than A4-5. Give them a try though, because there is little to no difference when you really look at it.

 

There is also Blades of Avernum, which lets you play 4 different cool short games in one (only one in the demo), including player-made games on that engine, which at this point sums up to about 80of them. Nethergate Reserection is a remake of an earlier version (just named Nethergate) which is about a the Roman Empire battling the rebellious Celts. You can play both sides of the story, the Romans and the Celts, which features an epic plot and a huge mysterious world to explore. There is also Exile 1-3, which is an earlier version of the Avernum story.

 

Finally, there is Geneforge. My personal favorite. It's about the tale of the Shapers, and how they are able to shape and mold life into their image. When called upon, they can summon up massive hoards of monsters to do the work for them. The game's most interesting feature is your ability to shape a platoon of custom made, mutant monsters. Its plot is deep, breath taking, and can lock you in for hours as you play the game. You can also play any of the games from multiple sides, each featuring a unique ending and different goals throughout the game. Travel is split up into zones (About 80 of them) and will let you zoom around the game world very easily once you've cleared them. Travel is real time, but combat is turned base. I give my personal recommendations to Geneforge 2 and 5, hands down having the most reply value. Geneforge 5 also has the most polish engine. Geneforge 1 will tell you a lot about the Geneforge world, and can help (but not required) to understand references in later games. Geneforge 4 features one of the best settings and plots you can ask or see in a video game. Geneforge 3's got the most intense plot in the series, and introduces some cool new features.

 

Hope this helps smile

 

And welcome to Spiderweb Software! Leave your sanity at the door!

 

The Last Archon

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Great info Master Ackrovan!

 

So I can see that I'm going to have to play a lot more games!

 

It sounds like there isn't really any reason to play newer games over the ones with the older engine. So I guess I should start at the beginning. I'll definitely check out the Geneforge series.

 

Thanks!

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You can play all the demos to see which engines you like and which plots seem appealing.

 

The engines fall into groups: all the Exiles have similar but not quite identical engines, Avernums 1-3 and Blades of Avernum share an engine, Avernums 4-5 share an engine, and all the Geneforges have the same engine. Nethergate and Nethergate: Resurrection both use engines similar but not identical to the Avernum engine and are virtually identical except for different leveling mechanics and some added dungeons in N:R, which was mostly made to run on newer machines.

 

Avernums 1-3 and Exiles 1-3 are the same plots with different engines. The two versions have partisans, so play both and see which you prefer. Avernums run better on newer operating systems, particularly Macs without OS 9 (there are no Carbonized Exiles).

 

Nethergate is a fantastic standalone game. Out of the Exiles/Avernums, 2 and 5 are probably considered the best, with 3 also a perennial favorite. It's good to play E1/A1 at least a bit to get a sense of the original setup. A4 is controversial; it's fun, but the plot is a little familiar if you've played the earlier games. Geneforges 1, 4, and 5 are all solid, and only Geneforge 3 seems to get much fan flak.

 

—Alorael, who wouldn't worry to much about spam accusation. You happened to post with a suspicious link in your signature after a sig-spammer joined. You are welcome. In fact, there's a standard greeting: "Welcome to Spiderweb. Leave your sanity at the door."

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Originally Posted By: "Acky"
mold life into their image


What? BFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT.

Rotghroths DO NOT take after the pretty Shock Troopers. Geneforge isn't a god game either. But it IS a good game. In fact, I refer you to the second part of the five-part series(it's where you get a proper ending for killing them all).
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....That wasn't meant to be taken literaly. Just stating reasons that 8bit would like to play more SW games. With that said, your opinion is that Geneforge is not a god game. I disagree, so I stated my opposing opinion. Tough shnucks if you don't agree tongue

 

(Oh yeah, and the Shapers wanted to alter and/or regrow plants and wildlife as they see fit, so, by definition of the term, they made life according to their image.)

 

The Last "Archon"

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