Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Thank you everyone for agreeing to play and watch. Here are the ground rules. Only the moderator (me) and people who are playing the game and are alive may post here. Anything else will be instantly deleted. The current living players are: Ackrovan Andraste Ash Lael Bain-Ihrno Bloodmoon Creator Dikiyoba Doom Warrior Excalibur Marlenny Nioca PGLB RCCCL Sarachim Sporefrog Xelgion Some ground rules: 1) If you are playing PLEASE READ ALL THE RULES. They have been updated since the last game. 2) Private communication is allowed. 3) Submit your actions to me by way of PM in the thread I started with you. If I cannot figure out what you want to do, I'll simply ignore it, so try to be clear. 4) Actions will be processed in the order they were received when I get around to them. Read the rules for how often you can submit and any other exceptions. 5) Please posts all rules questions in your PM with me or in the rules topics. 6) If you are not playing or dead, please do not influence the game. You may look, but not touch. Otherwise, the game begins: Thursday, April 9 at 9 PM EDT No action submissions will be accepted before that. A few people tried to submit some things, and those posts will be ignored. In other words, submit again after the game starts. I'm doing this not to be a jerk, but to make sure everyone gets a fair chance at getting their post in. I'm sorry if you are busy at the start time, but it is impossible choose a start time that works for everyone. Also, if you have not done so already, reply to my PM topic with you as soon as you can. If you do not within 24 hours of me sending it to you, you may be replaced. Just a reminder, no actions that kill anyone will be processed until: Friday, April 10 at 9 PM EDT Also, the game will end at the latest on: Thursday, April 16 at 9 PM EDT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Whats with the crying smiley? The Last Archon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 We get a different one every game, apparently. Dikiyoba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Andraste Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Sweet. I'm still Spartacus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Can I be greek too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 .....What the? Is Thuryl and I jinxed or somthing? The Last Archon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Xelgion Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Shouldn't the game be starting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 *i, could you unsticky the previous game thread and sticky this one? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Nioca Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 9:00 PM EDT. We've got an hour and thirty minutes to go here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody RCCCL Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 That's just for the first possible actions to be submitted, we can start messaging and coniving now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Xelgion Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted April 10, 2009 Author Share Posted April 10, 2009 Game begins now! Remember, the enemies rule with attacks is still in effect. Please consult the rules for how this works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall BainIhrno Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Will we get random items from time to time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted April 10, 2009 Author Share Posted April 10, 2009 Yes, once per day a random person will receive a random item. Also, if Oliver is alive, one item will be added to his shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted April 10, 2009 Author Share Posted April 10, 2009 Since something came up and I want to keep the game moving, I will move back the time an hour or so for processing any actions that can kill people. Just to rephrase, normally there is a one day waiting period for people dying. It will now be more like 23 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Hastening the mass murder, eh? The Last Archon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted April 10, 2009 Author Share Posted April 10, 2009 I suppose we could wait until pretty late tonight or tomorrow morning EDT, but I figure it is best to get things moving along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Sporefrog Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I approve of things moving along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 The carnage has begun. A body was discovered near a shore, half eaten by lizards. It was... NIOCA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 Another body was found, discarded in a trash heap. It was... DOOM WARRIOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 The bloodbath continues! A body washes on shore. It was... PGLB People begin to wonder amongst themselves who will be next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 Yet another person murdered! This time the body was... ANDRASTE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 BAIN-IHRNO was discovered, his throat cut in some abandoned cave. Another person dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 Oh dear! More bloodshed. A body in a pool of blood was found in an inn. It was... SARACHIM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 Everyone hears the grave news that someone just died in the same inn. He was... BLOODMOON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted April 12, 2009 Author Share Posted April 12, 2009 Yet another casualty. A shattered body is found amongst a pile of rubble. It was... XELGION Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted April 12, 2009 Author Share Posted April 12, 2009 Someone was found dead in his house, no apparent injuries except falling on a burning stove. It was... SPOREFROG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Marlenny Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I'd like to apologize in advance for killing Doom Warrior. It was the hardest kill for me to make as I really didn't want to betray you, Doomy. I promise to make it up somehow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted April 12, 2009 Author Share Posted April 12, 2009 And the game is now over. Everyone who is now alive has met their victory condition. Congratulations to... ACKROVAN ASH LAEL CREATOR DIKIYOBA EXCALIBUR MARLENNY RCCCL Thank you to all of our participants. I look forward to the next round! The roles were: Ackrovan -- Machrone Andraste -- Micklebur Ash Lael -- Shanker Bain-Ihrno -- Empire Spy Bloodmoon -- Oliver Creator -- Sacred Item Cultist Dikiyoba -- Dionicio Doom Warrior -- Domont Excalibur -- Bound Servant Marlenny -- Fae Nioca -- Gladwell PGLB -- Darkside Blademaster RCCCL -- Anama Hunter Sarachim -- Adventurer Sporefrog -- Anama Priest Xelgion -- Darkside Mage The log: Day 1 Fae equips assassin leather. Bound Servant uses crystal spire, reveals identity of Empire Spy. Anama Hunter learns Darkside Blademaster is NOT in the Anama. Machrone polls the targets of the Adventurer Sacred Item Cultist discovers Flaming Sword is in possession of Micklebur Fae assumes identity of Oliver Dionicio learns the role of the Anama Hunter Darkside Mage curses Gladwell Gladwell trades Heroic Brew with Fae (as Oliver) for Assassin Leather Fae (as Oliver) infects Gladwell with lethal disease Anama Hunter joins Gladwell Adventurer steals Weapon Poison from Dionicio Domont gives Darkside Blademaster keyword "lend" Empire Spy drinks Knowledge Brew, learns identity of Machrone Darkside Mage finds Weapon Poison Oliver trades junk with locals for Clover Boots Sacred Item Cultist gives Fae (as Oliver) Weapon Poison Domont trades Ironskin Salve with Fae (as Oliver) for Heroic Brew Fae (as Oliver) slips deadly scorpions into Domont's pack. Fae (as Oliver) gives Shanker Ironskin Salve Shanker gives Darkside Blademaster Ironskin Salve Darkside Blademaster trades Ironskin Salve with Fae (as Oliver) for Weapon Poison Fae (as Oliver) puts a small explosive in Darkside Blademaster's pack Fae (as Oliver) gives Shanker the Box of Traps Gladwell switches his immunity to physical Day 2 The disease activates and kills Gladwell Fae (as Oliver) recovers Assassin Leather The scorpions activate and kill Domont Fae (as Oliver) recovers the Heroic Brew The bomb explodes and kills Darkside Blademaster Fae (as Oliver) recovers the Weapon Poison Sacred Item Cultists finds Skribbane Oliver trades junk with locals for Ivory Skull Bound Servant uses Crystal Spire discovers identity of Domont Fae (as Oliver) gives Sacred Item Cultist Assassin Leather Fae (as Oliver) places traps around Shanker Anama Hunter kills Micklebur Anama Hunter recovers Flaming Sword Oliver investigates Machrone's inventory Empire Spy attacks Bound Servant, ends up dead Dionicio learns identity of Empire Spy Adventurer attacks Anama Hunter with poisoned weapon, ends up dead Anama Hunter recovers Wand of Death Sacred Item Cultist equips Assassin Leather Sacred Item Cultist kills Oliver Machrone conducts a poll on faction membership Anama Priest uses Warding Crystal to protect Anama Priest Day 3 Bound Servant uses Crystal Spire, discovers identity of Dionicio Anama Hunter trades Flaming Sword with Fae (as Oliver) for Ironskin Salve Dionicio finds an Ivory Skull Fae (as Oliver) recovers Weapon Poison and Ivory Skull Bound Servant gives Crystal Spire to Dionicio Anama Hunter uses Ironskin Salve Anama Hunter gives Fae (as Oliver) the Wand of Death Fae (as Oliver) kills Anama Priest Machrone IDs enough roles correctly Game over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody RCCCL Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Sporefrog, why didn't you resurrect Andraste? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Marlenny Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Especially since he could have given her the Warding Crystal to save herself next day. The real question is why the Empire Spy went and targeted the Bound Servant when he knew for a fact the identity of the Machrone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Nioca Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 ...Huh. I withdraw my point that the Gladwell is underpowered. Dang, Marlenny really did a number in this game. I still stand by my point that Gladwell needs more of a reason to recruit, though. If Marlenny hadn't done me in, the various Darksiders probably would have, since they knew my identity. There's no point in Gladwell having more than one or two servants, since he can only order one around per day anyway, and they provide, overall, very little benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Wow...I didn't have to do much at all. Nioca, were you going to compel me to do anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody RCCCL Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 He was going to compel you to attack Xelgion, apparently he never got the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Nioca Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Actually, I changed plans at the last minute. I switched my immunity instead. Not that it did much good, obviously, since I was a dead man anyway. Well, at least I helped you to victory, RCCCL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall The Creator Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I bet everyone will be so paranoid about the fae next game. I know I will. That's going to make life difficult for the trading roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Marlenny Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Originally Posted By: Nioca Dang, Marlenny really did a number in this game. I also chose not to kill a few other people (SIC & Anama Hunter) . Originally Posted By: Nioca I still stand by my point that Gladwell needs more of a reason to recruit, though. If Marlenny hadn't done me in, the various Darksiders probably would have, since they knew my identity. There's no point in Gladwell having more than one or two servants, since he can only order one around per day anyway, and they provide, overall, very little benefit. I disagree. The Gladwell does have a lot of reason to recruit. Despite only being able to order a servant around, Gladwell knows the identity of all the servants. This, in itself, is a big plus. It's all about making the right allies and being able to trust them. The main strategy for the Gladwell is to lay low early in the game and send the bound servant to do your job while pretending to be you. If someone attacks him (possibly one of your enemies), he gets first strike and wins (killing one of your enemies). Once you have enough allies/servants, you can start identifying potential enemies (might it be with items from your allies or through process of elimination) and getting them killed. In a complete different subject, props to RCCCL for doing the best hiding of his role. He was impossible to read, while still appearing non-threatening and helpful. Magnificent work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Nioca Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Originally Posted By: Marlenny Originally Posted By: Nioca I still stand by my point that Gladwell needs more of a reason to recruit, though. If Marlenny hadn't done me in, the various Darksiders probably would have, since they knew my identity. There's no point in Gladwell having more than one or two servants, since he can only order one around per day anyway, and they provide, overall, very little benefit. I disagree. The Gladwell does have a lot of reason to recruit. Despite only being able to order a servant around, Gladwell knows the identity of all the servants. This, in itself, is a big plus. You practically have to know their identity in order to recruit them, and in order to recruit them, you have to give away your identity and pray that person is friendly. Plus, it's not that he can only order a servant around; it's that he can only compel one servant per round. What's the point in having more? Other than maybe a spare just in case the other dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody RCCCL Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Thank you! If, I still had my message logs from game 3.1 I'd show you a clever little bit work. I can't even recall who it was now, but at the very beginning I let someone choose what role I was to them without them knowing. I want to say it was Creator, but can't recall, perhaps he can confirm it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody RCCCL Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Originally Posted By: Nioca You practically have to know their identity in order to recruit them, and in order to recruit them, you have to give away your identity and pray that person is friendly. Plus, it's not that he can only order a servant around; it's that he can only compel one servant per round. What's the point in having more? Other than maybe a spare just in case the other dies. Is that all I was to you, a spare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Nioca Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I tried to get more, but it turned out I was trying to recruit the Darkside Blademaster AND the Darkside Mage. The latter of which knowing I wanted to kill Domont. So... yeah. I likely would have wound up dead fairly quickly. What if Gladwell had an ability to check if a person can be recruited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Marlenny Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody RCCCL Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Actually I think it was Excalibur. Excalibur, was it you who I talked to thinking I was Shanker? Do you still have your messages from that game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ash Lael Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Originally Posted By: Nioca I tried to get more, but it turned out I was trying to recruit the Darkside Blademaster AND the Darkside Mage. The latter of which knowing I wanted to kill Domont. So... yeah. I likely would have wound up dead fairly quickly. What if Gladwell had an ability to check if a person can be recruited? Dude... everyone has to risk revealing themselves to an enemy. That's part of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted April 12, 2009 Author Share Posted April 12, 2009 Some thoughts: 1) First of all, everyone did a good job playing. You guys were a great set of players! 2) I think the concept of enemies worked really well. In many cases, I could tell people were more cautious when it came to killing. Two people died for attacking the wrong person, which is better than the wrong people dying. 3) The roles seemed pretty balanced. No one seemed too overpowered or underpowered. 4) I think Gladwell and the Anama are fine. With sufficient skill, it should be possible to deceive until you make a few allies. Both factions have a power role with an immunity. There is a good (albeit not foolproof if you get really unlucky) strategy to being successful with either role. Generally, this involves neither Gladwell nor the Anama Priest revealing themselves too early. Further, I disagree Gladwell has no reason to recruit. Just about everyone has a reason to have allies. The difference with Gladwell (and the Anama) is they have something to offer if the alliance is formalized. Granted, there is a cost, but that is just there to ensure that they are actually allies -- Anama Hunter aside. 5) I think it would be a good idea to put a little more randomness in determining which roles. This should make deception a bit easier and prolong the game. I'm eager to hear reflections on the game and what worked and what didn't. Not just about the rules so much as strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Øther Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 No RCCCL, that was me. I was certain you were the shanker. Dang. But I was right at first. I knew I shouldn't have traded, but I really wanted that heroic brew. So, of course, due to my greed, I get killed by magical scorpions. I thought that PGLB and Xelgion wqere the DLs, but Ackrovan really screwed me up over Xelgion. Still, I had a great time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody RCCCL Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I didn't mean in this game....you thought I was the Shanker? I was talking about the previous Northern Isles 3 game that got canceled. Edit:Doom Warrior, NVM I see where you would still consider me the Shanker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Yes, you told me you were Shanker in the last round. I believed it for a while, but then you started saying some conflicting things, and then you said you were Dionicio. Edit: ...and I still have that thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody RCCCL Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 If you quote the first part that would be great, and I never actually told you I was Shanker, I only agreed that I was Shanker after you asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 It's rather long (since we were quoting entire conversations with other people), so I won't post the entire thing, just this: Originally Posted By: Excalibur Okay, that makes sense. I was kind of thinking you were Shanker. I'm Machrone. Originally Posted By: RCCCL If you aren't Machrone, we could possibly be enemies, however I am willing to extend the truce pipe. ...(denotes a new post by same person) Heh, whew. The only other option made you Domont. That would have been bad seems how he wants me dead. ... If you happen to find out any of the DLs, or the Anama, I'd appreciate that info ASAP, as I'm on both kill lists. Originally Posted By: Excalibur Good. I'll put you down as Shanker. The first poll I will conduct is a Faction poll, though not until someone dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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