Tenderfoot Thahd Yarnosh Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 I finally made my way through the Stoneworks to the end and man is it hard! I've tried the fight every which way and I can't seem to get the upper hand. I kill the dark golem, but the last guy (won't say who... spoiler and all) just won't go down. I use up every pod I have but he's relentless. So what's a good time to try this one? Is it late game? I think I'm about level 18, shock trooper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 The Stoneworks can be pretty tough for some characters, so if there are any sidequests you haven't done it's not a bad idea to do them before going in. If you have enough mechanics, you can get some of the golems to fight on your side, and with leadership you can get the dark golem to turn on its master as well, once you've done enough damage. What creations are you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Yarnosh Posted March 20, 2009 Author Share Posted March 20, 2009 I am using 2 clawbugs and 3 roamers. I did not have the leadership to command the dark golem. As for getting golems on my side, I assume you mean the ones that are not yet finished. I brought them to life and they turned on me. Or perhaps you mean the 2 in the maze. I think I screwed that one up because I flipped the switch BEFORE meeting the golems. Maybe I should have got their attention first and then ran for the switch? Anyway, one thing I do need to do for sure is get a better sword. I'm just using the Empathy blade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 The fights go way easier if you have 7 leadership to control the unfinished golems. You don't need to control the dark golem, but it helps. Make sure you are hasted since with 5 creations you should get a couple extra attacks per round. You might be better healing your party with spores and spells rather than fighting yourself. There aren't many better blades except the Oozing blade in Lerman's Pass this early in the game, but you probably will have trouble there if you are having trouble here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Yarnosh Posted March 21, 2009 Author Share Posted March 21, 2009 For blade, I was thinking of getting 1200 gold steel shaped blade (14 - 70 HP) and enchanting it with something. Maybe fire. BUt I'm not sure just how valuable the extra strength and dex from the Empathy Blade for creations is. Maybe I should just keep using it, stand back during the big fight, and use magic to support the creations like you said. To check leadership, I went back to he beginning of the Stoneworks and made sure i put one more point into leadership. I was able to obtain the unfinished golems, but the self destructed pretty quickly. I guess that is because of my lack of leadership? The message didn't indicate that. It just said they were "old" or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Blurb Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 The first golems in the northeast die before you go into the room with the bad energy field. However, there is another pair of golems who will help once you escape the energy room. They are in the southwest corner. They are extremely helpful. Also, they don't die. They will follow you (annoyingly so) until you leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Oh they can die if you forget to heal them, but they make a big difference. I think the first set are if you have leadership 9 and sneak around using the Stoneworks key to deal with the early golems. You might reach them before the golems kill you if you are lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Øther Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 A bug with the golems that won't die: after I killed the dark golem and its master once, I went down the narrow corridor to open the small blue box. After I looted it, I turned to leave. Guess who followed me and wouldn't move! I had to kill it to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Blurb Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Same thing happened to me, Doom. I was trapped trying to loot the blue box and had to kill him. The other golem helped. Best thing to do is, once everything is dead in the zone, go out an exit and come back in and they're gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 My last playthrough, I dealt enough damage with my 2 bugs and 2 plated bugs to kill the golems, kill the helper golems, kill the dark golem after taking him over, and kill the master of the area, with only 1 essence pod. All I can say is: do all the sidequests you can before attempting the stoneworks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Yarnosh Posted March 21, 2009 Author Share Posted March 21, 2009 Thanks all. I went through again and this time made sure I had leadership 7, which really wasn't a problem because I think I leveled 2 times just fighting the regular golems on my way to the end. I was able to get the golems to help me. It made all the difference in the world. Even not controlling the dark golem, it was a piece of cake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila TheTerminator Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I found it impossible to do myself, i was using 7 plated clawbugs i believe. Had to lower the difficulty just to get out of there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Yarnosh Posted March 25, 2009 Author Share Posted March 25, 2009 Were you able to use the 2 "unfishished" golems to help you? Because I think that's the only realistic way to do it. With them, it is a piece of cake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila TheTerminator Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 no i hadn't put any points in mechanics or leadership or whatever you needed yet. Getting battle shaping to 20 first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 The unfinished golems are unnecessary and, like I did, can be killed immediately for the exp. If you're having trouble with 7 plated bugs, something is wrong. With 2 bugs and 2 plated bugs, life regeneration, war blessing, shielding, and sometimes speed (I think), it was a piece of cake on hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Drakefyre Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Use Acid! Deal some acid damage to both the golem and Makar and then they'll lose HP each point automatically. If possibly, also cast Lightning Aura on the enemies and Thorny Aura on yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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