Burgeoning Battle Gamma Desmarestia Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 “I have to know certain things...enough to make a decision...but maybe not everything. A part of me has to be able to walk away, disappear. I have to be able to say to myself, what was isn’t any longer, and there’s a possibility that it never was because I have no memory of it. What a person can’t remember didn’t exist...for him.” He turned back to her. “What I’m trying to tell you is that maybe it’s better this way.” —The Bourne Identity, Robert Ludlum Just an interesting parallel I noticed while reading the book for the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Amnesia in fiction is a well-worn trope, although I'm actually not at all sure where or even around when it began. In this case I suspect Jeff was channeling Planescape: Torment, which he has previously called one of his favorite games and which certainly has influenced his approach to morality in Geneforge. —Alorael, also doesn't quite see how it applies to G5. Your PC's past is a blank slate and you get to begin the game with a tabula rasa just like every Spiderweb game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Desmarestia Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 Originally Posted By: Invisible until in motion Your PC's past is a blank slate and you get to begin the game with a tabula rasa just like every Spiderweb game. In most of Jeff's games, your affiliation is clearly defined at the outset. G5 is different in that your allegiance is to yourself until you decide what your motives are. There are many similarities between Bourne/Webb and the G5 protagonist, but you're right; amnesia as a plot device is pretty common. And I suppose I should feel ashamed for comparing a classic like The Bourne Identity to an RPG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Bah, there's nothing classical about Matt Damon The Last Archon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Desmarestia Posted January 4, 2009 Author Share Posted January 4, 2009 I haven't even seen the movies. Are they good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Mistb0rn Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Are they good? They're amazing! They're different from the book, but really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Aequitas Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 The movies were extremely good, it's a pity they couldn't follow the books a little more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Blurb Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I think the movies are fantastic. I've read lots of Ludlum, just not these, so I can't compare. I've heard/read that the movies are quite different from the books. Matt Damon is a great and subtle hero. It's scripted such that you don't get those standard one-liner hero quotes so prevalent in popular action flicks since the Eastwood days or the Schwarzenegger days. No "Make my day" or "I'll be back" or other tripe. (I will say I like all that *tripe* also. I'm an easy action/adventure audience.) The Bourne movies are moody and subtle. Damon is perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd JD Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 I think the amnesia is particularly effective in G5. It helps to justify how you can easily awaken and train powers without having to use canisters for everything. More importantly it does provide a truly neutral starting point, as someone noted. One of the things I didn't like about G4's character origin was that it didn't make sense (to me, anyway) that a new rebel recruit would start off spouting Shaper philosophy, but that's what you had to do if you wanted a certain reputation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Originally Posted By: Justin Dagna One of the things I didn't like about G4's character origin was that it didn't make sense (to me, anyway) that a new rebel recruit would start off spouting Shaper philosophy, but that's what you had to do if you wanted a certain reputation. Well, if you only joined the rebels to use the Geneforge and gain power, and the Shapers are now offering you more power... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd JD Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Originally Posted By: Thuryl Well, if you only joined the rebels to use the Geneforge and gain power, and the Shapers are now offering you more power... That does make sense. Maybe that'll be my excuse to go play through G4 again when I have the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila DALEK Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I just finished Geneforge 5, and whew! What a game! Much better than then other ones in the series. But who is the character? It's almost like they're somebody we know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 We think thats the point. Basicly, its who ever your immagination will let you be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Øther Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Quote: But who is the character? It's almost like they're somebody we know! Everybody thinks that, but nobody can say for sure. The game does say you had an important past with the rebels, and there are a few characters that recognise you, but I have found out nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 While the identity of G5's PC is never expressly stated, the PC from Geneforge 4 fits the facts reasonably well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 ...except for a few ways in which s/he doesn't. The PC from G3 fits the facts about equally well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall The Ratt Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Like the GF4 pc gets killed off in about a third of the endings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Igor Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 What is the canonical GF4 ending, anyway? GF1 and 2 ended with the loyalist route (apparently), GF3 ended with rebels winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 It's the rebel ending again: at the start of GF5, the rebels are still actively producing Unbound and the Shapers are on the back foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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