Fledgling Fyora Loknar Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 Hi everyone, i'm kinda new here, obviously...so please be easy on me~ hmm...juz having a lil bit of dilemma rite now...hope u guys could help! Ah...it's about a choice actually. Between 2 games. Avernum 2. Avernum 4. I've played Exile 3, Geneforge 1/2, Avernum 3 a -long long- time ago, so i'm not really a beginner...but lately my time is fairly limited, because of this..affliction..called The Real Life. So between those two, n judging from the games i've played, which one do u guys think i should focus on? Or rather, try to play all the way to the end... Hmm...from what i've heard, Avernum 4 is really great on combat, but not really plot-wise....n there're also some minor annoyances i've heard here n there in the forums - the Pokemon-like "death" system for example. I'm not totally against it, though it -is- a lil bit unrealistic....but let's not get into that shall we? Ah...about Avernum 2. The story as we all know, is quite good. Very good in fact...but maybe the combat is a lil bland? At least when compared to Avernum 4....i looove to have some -real- strategies when fighting, n not juz the usual haste-bless-shield-whatever-wait manuever in every fight.... But then again, i can't really say much, as i've only played the demos of both game...n even so not even until the point of completion...because of time constraints and other stuff going on...so, last but not least...c'mon people, convince me! Sway me to your side!!! Oh ya, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 A2. It has some really fun combats at various points (including my favorite combat in any Spiderweb game, the attack on the Ziggurat), and the plot is definitely better. I prefer the engine, too, but that's more of a personal preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 A2. Dikiyoba says to buy A2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Dolphin Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 A2 is more of an Avernum game than A4, so A2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Major Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 I have a better idea buy me A2. But, yes, A2 would be a better one to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Aran Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 Avernum 2. Many people like Avernum 4, apparently, and I'm not saying you shouldn't get both - especially if you played Geneforge and liked it - but Avernum 2 beats its successor hands down in story, immersion, game play and just plain avernum-ness. Ask here on the boards, and you will hear "A2" from just about everyone. Edit: And that's just here on the A4 board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Me. Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 A2. I've won it, and I'll say that there is some immersive combat at the Ziggurat and that the plots start going rapidly downhill afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 Quote: Originally written by Me.:A2. I've won it, and I'll say that there is some immersive combat at the Ziggurat and that the plots start going rapidly downhill afterwards. I agree that A2 is the right game, but calling the Ziggurat combat "immersive" seems strange. "Massive" is the word I'd use. I also can't quite fathom the plot going downhill afterwards, especially since you can more or less assault the Ziggurat in any order with regards to the other pieces of plot. A2 has a better plot and the nice elevation system. Its combat isn't as varied or interesting as A4's on the whole, but I didn't groan every time I fought enemies, either. There are fewer incentives to abuse the skill system, and exploration is much more exploratory. —Alorael, who also recommends Nethergate because Nethergate cannot be recommended enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 Remember, when you're at Ornotha Ziggurat, watch out for quickfire: smoking ziggurats can be harmful to your health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Zeviz Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 I'll add another vote to the unanimous "not even worth compairing" opinion. A2 is one of Jeff's best games (along with Nethergate and BoE), while A4 is one of the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Aaron Kashtan Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 I will join the unanimous consensus. I like Avernum 4, but I think Avernum 2 is Jeff's masterpiece (though I haven't played Nethergate). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 The only gripe I had about A2 that was fixed in A4 was in combat you no longer needed to delay your actions. Being the last person to cast haste/slow makes no difference in A4. A2 has a better plot and is more fun to play. Even knowing the plot from Exile 2 it was a blast. I did wish the final battle with Garzahd was a good as E2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora Loknar Posted May 18, 2006 Author Share Posted May 18, 2006 Hmm...okay, thanx all! I'm going to play play play A2 now... *crosses fingers hoping tht the fights will be better later on* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Me. Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Good for you, Loknar! And Alorael, what I mean by "immersive" I that it's the kind fight you don't want your mom to tell you to get off in the middle of. Me.com (does not exist.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast VCH Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 It's been several years since I played A2. Can someone please remind what exactly the Ziggurat was? I have a vague recollection of it having something to do with the Empire, but then what didn't in A2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Radix Malorum Est Cupiditas Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Click to reveal.. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ As far west as possible through the vahnatai lands. Past some fort (I think it was called fort Haeldon or something like that). Through a tunnel and then deep in empire lands to recover either evidence of a crystal soul or a crystal soul itself. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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