Tenderfoot Thahd Stefano Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 Here I am in Renthar's fortress and my Vahnatai mates are held and I cannot free them. Can I free them? And what about the controls that can be accessed via the grate: I cannot disable them like the others: tool use problem? I have 15 on my chief tool user. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 One of the panels on the lower level frees them, the others make the final battle and passage to it easer. I do not believe you need to free them to win the game, however. If you feel you are strong enough, you can try to go down the main corridor without them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Stefano Posted April 8, 2006 Author Share Posted April 8, 2006 Thank you: I am going in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Delicious Vlish Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 Look out for a certain Lord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody WiKiSpidweb Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 Speaking of the endgame, did anyone find the final Rentar battle to be ridiculously easy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Radix Malorum Est Cupiditas Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 Yes. But if you don't kill the shades or turn off the controls in her fortress it's a lot harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody WiKiSpidweb Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 But why wouldn't you do those things? I mean the shades weren't that hard once you got the right strategy, and those controls were extremely obvious. That lich who charms you right before rentar was a much harder fight for me, as was the one against the other crystal soul. Garzahd was also ridiculously easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Radix Malorum Est Cupiditas Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 Just throwing the thought out there in case you wanted a more difficult fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody WiKiSpidweb Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 But you see, I'm a completest, I can't leave part of the game unfinished, no if I need a challenge, I'll try a singleton party on torment mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 Jeff made one panel tool use 16 just to screw with everyone's minds. The final battle isn't that bad even as a singleton in Torment mode. R-I just summons help that summon more help. If you turn off all the panels, then there is less to fight. I missed the one to stop the golems, and they weren't that bad. The Vahnatai Lord isn't too bad either. He can't parry area attacks like Icy Rain. The same problem you had with Nodicuas comes back to haunt the monsters. I thought the end was too easy. It doesn't make the top 3 fights. For me they were Nodicuas, getting Demonslayer, and that Gazer in the dungeon with Demonslayer. I know Jeff said that he wanted an easier end after complaints about a Geneforge end, but the Torment version should have a special script to give a true challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Sahdrani Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 Jesus, do I have to do EVERYTHING FOR YOU?! Gods be damned, here. begindefinecreature 224;// Pylon cr_name = "Rentar-Ihrno"; cr_base_level = 35; cr_creature_type = 7; cr_max_health = 30000; cr_resistances 3 = 70; Just put that in you av4itemschars(.doc) file and erase the old one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Donald Hebb Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 Go copulate with yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast VCH Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 "You can think TM is an idiot. You may well be right." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 Increasing R-I's health so the battle takes longer isn't the problem. The choice menu for actions taken needs to be increased. Hrickis and Nodicuas had enough different options so it was somewhat interesting. They were also a challenge because they were significantly higher level than the player's level would normally be at the time they were first encountered. R-I has two summoned creatures, the energy balls, and 3 scripted attacks. In A3 she has a better scripted fight than this one. Even the liches are better scripted for their fight options. I fought her as a singleton without my Vahnatai allies. I got down the stairs ahead of them and killed everything myself. It should have been harder. The only problem was I got into a stun loop where I didn't get an attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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