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I once named my old Fyora Old Bill, but he died one map afterwards. He was the only one I ever loved.

I think that the worst person was the guy at the beginning of G4. I let the monsters kill him, and he still appeared at the stupid fort. Then, when I tried to kill him, I got killed by Greta.

I think Jeff is winning.

I believe that both the Geneforge and Avernum skill sets can also be used with the class system. For example, a mage can have skills with magic and a warrior can have skills with swords, but the mage can't have a skill with swords and the warrior can't have a skill with magic.

I think I made the Alwan page, or at least edited it. Also, I made some of the keywords and made the Astoria and Rawal page.

Then again, there is a reason why Red Beard hasn't been killed yet. Had we found that he was easy to beat, I don't think that the power of Red Beard Spiderweb Software wanted to show us would be long lost.

Hints: 1. Have the Shadow Walker and the Mage in the northern secret room, and put the warrior in the southern room. 2. Have the Warrior "see" the Soul Jars. This way, the Shadow Walker and the Mage will be able to fight in both rooms without having to walk to the two separate rooms. 3. I prefer to have the Shaman fighting Red Beard as she can easily heal herself. 4. I prefer to have the PC fighting the Soul Jars, but I suppose a person can try to fight Red Beard. If you need: 1. Turn down the difficulty of the game using the Preference Screen 2. Use cheats like healmenow and rechargeme. Using these hints, I defeated Red Beard in about thirty minutes.

Actually, if you don't kill any important characters then there will still be those three rebel leaders. So, not good if you like the Shapers.

I believe that if you take the Barzite path, you are able to take all of the canisters and become freaking powerful. Or, at least, that is what I think happens. I've never played a Barzite. Or Awakened. I've only played Servant and unaligned. And man, unaligned can be pretty difficult. You just kill and kill and kill without being able to learn much (except with the first trainer in the Shaper Warrens and from the Agent in the Loyalist Encampment). Other than that, little to no canisters, no alterations, and little training until the third quarter of the game for an unaligned character. However, killing everything does give a person a pretty good plus in experience points and a pretty good ending, and a person can actually get some training in Medab. (Although, I believe that if you raze Drypeak, people don't like you. Or something.) Sorry, getting off track here. If you play Awakened, I don't think that it is terrible to become a canister junkie, as they were the ones who pushed the PC to use the Geneforge. Even the Takers didn't do that.

I had a bunch of living tools by the end of Geneforge 3 (50?). Then, I met that one horrible, horrible, horrible stupid tiny island and I barely had any living tools left. Then again, it was pretty awesome getting those gloves which gave me a HUGE bonus to my Strength.

The Geneforge: In Redbeard's quarters, there is a fountain which really, really reminds me of the Geneforge. Why? - It is red - It tempts the PC to use it. - It kills the PC when the PC decides to plunge his or her hands in it. - The only user is Red Beard, a person who * lived a long time (An effect caused by the Geneforge) * looks strange to the average person (Another effect caused by the Geneforge) * is insanely powerful (Yet another effect from the Geneforge) Shaping: - The wizard created that strange creature. He didn't summon it like a shaman. - Some uses of magic is strictly forbidden in Lyannaus. Could these magic techniques be the lost Shaping Arts? - On that note, can the lost Shaping Arts be the 6th mage technique that one woman in the inn was looking for? Obviously, one part of magic is missing. - The Corruption is considered to be a place where rogue mages live, a place that is considered to be infested with rogue creatures and an impractically bizarre place. Shaping, anyone? Geography and History: - The geography of Lyanneus looks very similar to Terrestia if the two sides of Terrestia can be seen at once. - In one of the books, it states that there were strange people who came over to Lyanneus a long, long time ago. The time of the Shapers, anyone? - The dragons of Avadon used to fight the humans. The drakons of Geneforge did fight the loyal humans and Shapers (and killed my PC a couple of times, too) In the end of Geneforge 5, we learn that the age of the revolution has been long forgotten. Due to the multiple endings, we don't really know who won. The Shapers? The Rebels? Who? Even if the Shapers did win, they would surely be put to rest in a few centuries if not a few thousand years. Avadon, while it isn't stated, does have the ability to become the future of Terrestia. Or, I suppose, can be the Schloai's home since all of their mages only used magic but no shaping. Anyways, what do you think? Are the Geneforge games and Avadon games connected? Or are these just easter eggs?

Sorry, guys for your time. I finally found the mistake.

I absolutely love the Geneforge games. In fact, I bought the first three games at one time! Unfortunately, I accidentally spilled my beverage on the laptop. Now that I have a newer mac, these games aren't able to run. Is there anything I can do so that my games can work?

Alright, so I'm not a history junky, but it does seem pretty clear that countries like the Tawon and Kellemendriel are based from real life countries. The Tawon could be Russia, with most of the destruction coming from the communist takeover, and Kellem could be Italy in the Renaissance. So, what do you guys think?

Be awesome and come back, otherwise I'll use the wand of attr... nevermind. That sounds bad.

Perhaps missing everything but the drake skins and the history scrolls was a glitch. Are you using Stream? I've heard that there can be glitches on there if your internet is sub par. It's interesting to note that the only things that are mission related are the drake skins and the history scrolls. Anyways, it seems like a glitch. I didn't have that problem. Anyways, after a quest (from Kellemendriel I think), your PC is able to come to his tower. Pretty cool, no?

Have you played the whole game on hard or torment? That may be the case. When I tried to get the Heart achievement didn't work just because I switched game difficulty from hard to torment right before finishing the game.

Just talk to the servant mind and ask him to admit you.

I, being an ever loving pro-Shaper, was always sad that I was never really able to play a Shaper. I loved saying, "Fear me or else I will melt you," and watch the people scream in terror. Ah, good times, good times. But, all in all, every Geneforge game was amazing. G5, however, was probably one of my favorites, except the fact that I still never found out my identity and that what happened to me after the Shapers took control again was kind of... vague.

Sorry, I should clarify a little more. If Sevelin is able to see the 2 soul jars in the other room, Nathaline and my PC won't have to run to the different rooms. All they would have to do is just use the bucket of acid and the ice spell to destroy the soul jars in the other room while Sevelin uses arrows and Jenell does whatever the heck she wants to do to hurt Redbeard.

Since I didn't want to waste 3 hours of my day, I set the difficulty to Casual and finally used cheats. I used healmenow, rechargeme, and shieldsup. I then got the two doors open and put Nathaline and my Shadow walker in the first room, and placed Sevelin in the second room where he would be able to see both Soul Jars. This way, as long as I use the abilities, Nathaline, Sevelin, and my PC were able to hack away at all Soul Jars all day while Jenell hacked away at Redbeard. I never got more than 2 Soul Jars at once which was pretty awesome, and Redbeard was killed in 25 minutes.

I prefer the Shadow walker. The Shadow walker often doesn't get hit because of his high dexterity, and even if he does get hit, his high dexterity helps ease the pain quite a bit. Plus, you won't have to pump any points into another column in order to have stronger attacks since dexterity makes the razor disks much more effective. When I was done with my game, my Shadow Walker had 41 points in dexterity, the ability to heal himself, and a self heal scarab. He was pretty much indestructible, even when fighting Redbeard and kept hitting at around 100-225. I haven't played as a Blademaster, but Sevelin in both playthroughs of Avadon was never extremely effective at killing monsters. He was always better as a meat shield while I either blasted enemies with a Firebolt or pierced enemies with a Razor disk.

Alright, I see. Thanks!

There is one thing I don't understand about the PC: Why is he/she so stupid? The PC in Geneforge was trapped on a strange, corrupted island, the PC in Geneforge II was in a small part of Terrestia, the PC in Geneforge III pretty much knew everything, the PC in Geneforge IV pretty much knew everything, and the PC in Geneforge V had amnesia for God knows how long. So, all of these people either had a reason for not knowing what was going on, or they knew pretty much the basics of everything. So, why in the world does the PC in Avadon not understand what is happening in Lyanaeus when he/she has been living there for all of his/her life? Honestly, I was hoping that somewhere in the story, we find that the PC had lived in the Corruption for most of his/her life and that either the people did not know, or that they knew and didn't want to make too much of a fuss.

I did that before (playing a Geneforge 4 demo, nonetheless), so I know what to do. If you have a warranty on the computer, go to the place (e.g. Best Buy), give them the warranty information (if you don't have that, you may be fine. Most warranties are on their computer databases), and give them the computer. It make take up to a month to get the screen fixed in their factory.