Faithful

While not a direct response to the topic, DRM is very important to me personally. I am in no way trying to move this thread onto the topic of DRM, but only responding to the postings. Jeff gives the impression on the Home Page that there is No DRM on his products, which is not exactly correct (unless something has changed from the News/Promises section which state; "No Obnoxious DRM!"). Here is the quote from the Home Page. I bolded the last three words for emphasis. _____________________________________________________________ Welcome to Spiderweb Software, Inc. We are a small company, founded in 1994, that is dedicated to creating terrific games for Windows and Macintosh. Our promises to you: big free demos, a money-back guarantee, and no DRM! _____________________________________________________________ This is a topic that is important enough for Jeff to mention it, so I think it is important enough for users to care about it; which I do. Anyway, this would be the best change I would like to see on any program that carries DRM.

Thanks everyone for the help. It is most appreciated.

Originally Posted By: Lilith They should do, and there have been reports of them working fine for others, but if in doubt you can always download the demos and see if they run okay on your computer. Were you actually able to get Geneforge to install and run, despite the installer saying it wasn't supported? I was not very clear in my first post, as I was looking for what I thought would be a quick answer from those that are running the game. I am currently running XP, I bought Win 7 64 bit and have not installed it yet. So, my question was future orientated.

I am trying to figure out what to buy during the Spiderweb sale and have a question. I downloaded the original Geneforge and during install it says it is made to work up to Windows XP. I am unsure if this is just a limitation of the demo, or is this for the full game as well. Does anyone know for certain if ALL the Geneforge games will run on Win 7 with no issues? Thanks for any help you can offer.

I too am still wrestling as which to purchase. I can not buy all three series, but I have wondered which would be the "one" to own of the three: the two Avernum series, or the Geneforge Saga. Also, is Nethergate Resurrection worth the $15.00 asking price? Thanks

Originally Posted By: Dikiyoba Actually, those are pre-discount prices. All the individual games are still listed at their usual price, so the game collections must be too. I do not think so. Only the series games are on sale. As I have watched this site over time I recall the Geneforge Saga has been $75.00 for all 5 titles. 25% off of $75.00 is $18.75, which makes the Geneforge Saga sell for its current price of $56.25. It would be a lot clearer if both prices were listed with something like the $75.00 wit a red line through it.

Thanks everyone, this really helps. I am one that many times buys strategy guides but never uses them. I like to try to figure things out on my own, and many times only use guides to make sure I found every side-quest. Thanks again; I think I will bypass them.

If I purchase the Geneforge series, what are your thoughts about buying the Strategy Guides as well? Are they necessary, needed, are they really beneficial, and do they offer things that not be known otherwise? Thanks

Since there is a sale going on, I am thinking of buying Geneforge Series. Honestly I am not entirely sure which is a better choice Geneforge or Avernum, but I figured the Geneforge is a completed series. So, I am wondering how do I make sure I am buying a CD version? There is no check box, there is nothing asking if you want a CD, so how can I be assured that I will receive a CD version of the game? I ask because I never want to deal with asking for a registration code in the future. Thanks for any help you can offer.

Originally Posted By: VCH Battlestar Galactica is an awesome game, if anyone is looking for something to try. At one time I owned about 125 or so board games, sold them off do not buy any more and have about 12 left. It was an addiction on my part to keep buying the new games and all the expansions. Also, I enjoyed collecting some of the older games (still have Mosby's Raiders). Fun hobby, but way too many games to buy and play.

Since this thread has gone from DRM to board games check out Board Game Geek site. Direct link to Settlers of Catan page

Originally Posted By: Improbable Causality What, exactly, bothers you about registration codes? Not DRM in general, but the codes that Jeff uses. What do you find so wrong about them? I honestly would not have a problem with a simple registration code. If I could buy the game, receive a registration code that would work for the game for life (no matter how many times I install or uninstall) I would have zero problem with that. That is not what we are talking about though as best I can tell. The code is only good if your system does not change, or if you never install new hard drives, etc. It is this level that I take issue with. A simple code would be very easy to deal with, buy the game, receive a code, finished. That is about it.

Originally Posted By: Triumph Faithful...I'm confused. Do you want Jeff to let people download the full game for free, and then he can just hope that people will feel like paying him something someday? Exactly what are you advocating he do? No, of course he deserves to be paid, all I would like to see is the DRM removed from the game.

Dantius, I know it is likely a trifling thing at this stage, but I want to say, I do not see myself as someone who is part of "anti-DRM crusaders" no mare than any here "DRM crusaders". I was responding to what Jeff himself wrote in his blog, and posted as a link in the News section of the Spiderweb site. In fact it is the very first point of his 3-point Customer Service Promises. I figure there would be no trouble to write about it since Jeff clearly understands the importance of not causing ill-effects via DRM on customers. This thread has seemed to move from conversation, or dialog to me being outside the norm, and thus, take it or leave it. I got it. Thanks for writing back, and I will indeed hold off until such a time I might decide to buy the CD, or the game loses its DRM.

Master1, two things. 1. I am assuming you read my complete post so you know already there is no hate, only a question that I self answered. If you have not read it all, then please do so, before posting such remarks. 2. I have not bought the games as of yet, and the only way I might is to get the CD version of the game(s), but that is a wrestle for me personally. I honestly do not think I am asking for a lot if the DRM is so minimal it can be considered no DRM by some anyway. If it is that trivial then simply do away with it altogether. You will not be any worse off, and Jeff would gain potentially more customers. Seems like a win-win situation to me.