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I will guess you enjoy hockey, then, VCH. Just a shot in the dark.
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It is in the Lost Dera Vault. Pull the lever to the right of the entrance, and you will get the message "you hear stone grinding in the distance". Pull several more levers in the small hidden rooms that become accessible, and after four or five times, you get the Ornk canister.
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The best way to keep your prisoners and slaves comatose and not prone to rebellion is, of course, to give the free unlimited high-speed Internet access in their cells.
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ctrl+r is hard refresh on the three major browsers and Chrome. Try that.
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There's a guy in the south of Minallah named Barcott who will buy your stuff.
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I was going to make a snappy response about how one six thousandth of a human is actually alive, but then, in my calculations, I stumbled upon this: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1C1CHMZ_enUS306US309&q=100+-+99.9999999999&aq=f&oq=&aqi= I'm pretty stunned.
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Why must the "we're made of meat" story be needlessly spammed onto any topic that speculates about nonhuman forms of life?
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Swine flu is not "beating us up". You have a higher chance of dying from the normal flu than from the swine flu. The swine flu is incredibly contagious, just not very deadly.
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Originally Posted By: Hypno Hypno's Okay. YES! I am now above babling idiot! Well, you were, but then you made that post.
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We're moving the goalposts here. I initially asserted that it was impossible for a computer to become sentient, and now you are talking about how a computer could be programmed to behave like a human. Of course they could, all you would need is a clever programmer and a set of premade responses. It would not be sentient.
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There is a coin icon in the corner of the icon for each item- click it. Then, when you've clicked all the items you want to sell, hit the OK button, and then they should all be sold. If you've clicked an item you didn't want to sell, fine, hit the coin button again. This is a vast improvement over the older games, where if you hit the coin button, you would automatically sell it, resulting in much consternation and reloading if your finger slipped when trying to sell the item next to the Puresteel Soulblade.
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Very well. Quote: If we duplicate it in every detail, then it will work just like the original; if it doesn't, then we haven't duplicated it in every detail. Some detail has been missed. Technically, there is no difference between a just-deceased corpse and the person that was just alive. They are identical, and yet you don't see them being compared. Quote: Why not? You are taking two fundamentally disparate things (sentience and computers), and attempting to compare them each other. It just doesn't compute. First, I appreciate the lack of a citation. Second, the whole point of this thread is to compare computers to sentient being. It's the presupposition. Quote: You seem to imply that life as it exists on Earth is the only possible form of life. This is an unfounded assumption. No, I presumed that life on earth would respond in predictable ways. A sentient computer, if it existed, would not, as it would have to be fundamentally different than life on earth; it would be alien to us. Quote: Wait, what? Are you trying to say that proteins have a degree of sentience? Or individual cells? They really don't... First, a protein is not living in the same way that a virus is not living. It is a part of a cell, not a cell. Clarification is needed though. Cats and dogs are obviously sentient, and amoebas are obviously not. A line must be drawn, but I have neither the expertise nor willingness to draw it. I will leave that to someone better informed than I. Quote: Oh really? Just because something is alive doesn't mean it will have the same desires, fears, etc as we do. Case in point: almost any animal you can think of. Absolutely incorrect. Are you saying that a dog or cat has different desires, fears, needs, etc, than a human? I don't think so. Quote: Incidentally, this occurs all the time in real life. Not on a level you could duplicate with a computer. I think what you are trying to say is that if, in theory, you could magically add together a bunch (like quadrillions) of molecules exactly in the right place, you would get a cell, and then x6 to the 16 power to get a human body. But then you'd have a human body, not a computer.
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What about Spddin and Artemis? Or are they independent of this web?
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I love chick-fil-a. Wish there were more in Chicago.
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I am proud to say I have never used lol in a post in my life... lol.
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Originally Posted By: Niemand How is it that you think your Frankenstein analogy applies? Probably the whole "taking nonliving things and stiching them together to create sentience" thing.
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Originally Posted By: SOT LOL!!! Rules: 1. Post responsibly – Only YOU can prevent spam! Please don't create irrelevant topics on forums dedicated to specific games, create multiple topics about the same thing, or post multiple times in a row in rapid succession. Forum topics are like conversations: it's okay for the discussion to wander, but it's not okay to butt in off-topic when others are enjoying their discussion. That's just interruption. Don't make short, meaningless posts or respond to every topic you possibly can; spam is frowned upon. Don't post in a topic that has been inactive for a long time unless you have good reason to continue the discussion. We appreciate posts that are easy to read, so please post legibly. Try to adhere to good spelling and rules of grammar. Excessive use of rainbow colored text is not permitted.
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Just becase we can duplicate something doesn't mean it will work. The ability to build a silicon-based computing system that is a perfect recreation of the brain would be like creating some bizzare Frankenstein Monster out of parts of cadavers, shocking it, and saying "That is alive". You have all the pieces there, there is no flaw in their assembly (we presume), you have applied stimulus, and yet it does not work. It never will work. You are taking two fundamentally disparate things (sentience and computers), and attempting to compare them each other. It just doesn't compute. Sentient biological computers, on the other hand, are much more feasible. As they would already have some level of sentience, it would be appropriate to assume that it could possess enough sentient capabilities to merit human treatment. However, in that case, the point is moot, as it would be close enough to alive that normal punishments would have an effect on it.
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Just loaded an old save, Repel Spirit does no damage.
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Originally Posted By: Nalyd Sure, technically a heretical cult I'm sure that that label has, at some point or other, been affixed to every single religion ever created ever. EDIT: When I clicked the reply button, the avatar was a black square. Now it is a red star. What are you, an optometrist, Nalyd?
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Haw about the one in Lerman's pass who obliterates a "strong willed human" to the point that he literally has no mind of his own?
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Only works against Undead. Orbs were never living, so the spell will do no damage.
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And where is the indication that we will, in fact, get it? That's like saying "Well, we don't have hyperspace faster-than-light space ships now, but we will, because as a recurring theme in literature, we're bound to be on to something." And yes, the "it happened in fiction, what should we do IRL" is the implied subtext in the thread. Show me some scientific evidence that silicon can become sentient and then I'll reconsider.
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Avernum 3rd time around remake :D
Dantius replied to neonexus2101's topic in Avernum Trilogy (2000-2002 original versions)
Has Jeff published sales figures anywhere? Or at least an approximation? I'm curious now.
