Gondor2222

So there's no easy way to increase the size of the sprites the game's code expects to allow me to use larger sprites?

I loved the original Geneforge I, and would very much like to find a way to bring in some of the textures from newer Geneforge games with higher resolutions to my copy of G1, but any attempts to alter the dimensions of the textures in the folders leads to massive graphical glitches. Is there a way for me to alter the way the game displays textures so that I can display larger images in G1?

Originally Posted By: Master Ackrovan The Graph isn't perfect, since there are still many other creations that need to be rooastered in (Terror Vlish, Searing Artila's, Battle Gamma's etc), but still, great job Gondor. Well then gimme pics! >

Originally Posted By: RC2112 Quote: (If you press shift+D REALLY fast you might get it during enemy turns), but if you're going to get hit for more than your max health imbetween those turns, it's likely even cheats can't save you >.> Unbound sometimes qualify for that. 1.The cheat for healing is healmenow 2.You can also hold down shift-d,which I find is easier. you can HOLD IT DOWN?! OMG THIS MAKES CHEATING SO MUCH EASIER! I'LL NEVER DIE AGAIN! 100th post

Originally Posted By: Replete with the Elite That is a square that is entirely circular, sir, and without a corner in sight! —Alorael, who would append an "or madam" to be safe if it didn't ruin the flow of his snappy retort. Fortunately, he has his rambling signature to take care of the possible oversight. so true.

>.< that was incredibly cheesy

Originally Posted By: Master1 Not to mention the countless types of vlish... Well, could you get me screenie of those vlish facing the same direction as the rest of the catalogue? I could make more..

Originally Posted By: Master1 Vegan meat pies are abominations to food. Back to the topic at hand... I'm playing torment for the first time. I'm getting ready to go into the stoneworks, and I see no way I could take out an unbound at this point without getting ridiculously lucky. Those of you who claim to take out unbound when you come across them in torment, is there some secret that I don't know about? cheating? lol xD But seriously, cheating is limited, you usually can only buff/heal/recharge yourself during your and your creation's(s') turns (If you press shift+D REALLY fast you might get it during enemy turns), but if you're going to get hit for more than your max health imbetween those turns, it's likely even cheats can't save you >.> Unbound sometimes qualify for that.

Ok then, I moved the serviles to a separate area and included other living tools (EDIT: not as in the item living tools, but all of the tools that are shaped for use by shapers/humans/etc) in it. They count as not being in a tier because the tools don't count towards shaped battle creations. The serviles don't count because the serviles are almost never shaped anymore. the new image: http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/194/geneforgecreationtiers.jpg

Originally Posted By: The Pukka Panjandrum If you're baking drakons, you're probably making a meat pie. What kind of meat pie has corners? —Alorael, who knows this is unwarranted. He makes no apologies and shows no mercy. this kind http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/Vegan_Meat_Pie_01_Pengo.jpg

I use the technique of baking them into a corner so they don't use spells that can sometimes instant-kill you. Then I used Thorny Aura so that the Melee attack they're forced to use hurts themself ^^ And then I just hack at them with a sword.

Originally Posted By: Namine What about servant minds, and creator, and stuff like spawners, and those new creations, Podlings or something. I'm pretty sure servant minds are supposed to symbolize a sort of brain in a bowl, as their initial purpose (such as on Sucia) were simply to coordinate and control events and other creatures. I think the creator is simply just a humanoid wrapped up in a large green mesh that connects it to shaping platforms, both to Shape creations that it wants to and to restore itsself.

Originally Posted By: Namine Oh i see, thx. What about spawners? Spawners, golems, and the like are trickier to place since we have no idea what level you'd need to make them were they creatable. For them I simply place them in a tier judging from how powerful their creators are across the game. For example, all of the shapers i've seen that are known to have created golems or spawners are strong enough to create rotzhidrons and war tralls at the least, so I place golems and spawners in that same tier (tier 5). But as far as I know, Shapers that are only powerful enough to make up to tier 4ish creations never have been known to make golems or spawners, meaning the golems do not belong in the lower tiers.

Originally Posted By: Namine Can battle betas, and ur glaahks, and cryodrayks really take on a kyshaaak? I think some upgrades shouldn't count a whole tier up, like pryoroamers. The system isn't based on combat stats necessarily, rather, the difficulty of shaping them. the fact that you need to be skilled in creating a roamer (3 in the skill) to create a pyroroamer means pyroroamers are more complex, and thus are on a higher tier.

Originally Posted By: Thuryl Shouldn't Gazers and War Tralls be a tier above where you've put them? Yes, I guess they should.. Btw should golems be in tier 5 or 6? Thanks for staying with me through all this, the original image was put together very hastily... EDIT: So far I have this.. http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/194/geneforgecreationtiers.jpg EDIT EDIT: darnit, when i rearranged rothgroth and rotzhidron i forgot to color them EDIT EDIT EDIT: fixed it

Originally Posted By: Master Ackrovan No, "Water-Drayks" are called Living Crafts. Creations could be split into two main categories, War Creations and Economic Creations. so... http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/194/geneforgecreationtiers.jpg ??

Originally Posted By: Master Ackrovan Living Crafts. I hope you don't mean to suggest that i put serviles into the same group as mines, batons, living tools, etc. Serviles are either shaped or descended from shaped serviles, whereas mines, batons, and living tools are grown and farmed, usually by non-shapers. They belong in entirely different groups. EDIT: I was thinking this.. http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/1186/geneforgecreationtierst.jpg

Originally Posted By: Thuryl Serviles are almost certainly not the equivalent of tier 1 creations. It's mentioned several times in the series that the reason the Shapers prefer to breed them is that they're very difficult to shape properly. So then maybe a tier 4 as a lower equivalent of a servant mind or one of the drayk boats things? (What are those called anyway?)

The old drakon graphic and the old ur-drakon graphics are included in the graphics core (both are in separate files from eachother), so if you wanted to do some scripting and replace the new drakon sprites with the old drakons, you'd just need to use the correct image number...which somebody else will have to tell you, I don't know what it is.. This is what I found in the graphics core: http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/9139/g5olddrakongraphic.jpg

Originally Posted By: The Pukka Panjandrum Most Shapers have serviles to serve them, but do they create those serviles? I got the distinct impression that the vast majority of serviles are born naturally and that new ones are created only when a new type is necessary. —Alorael, who does suppose that leaves the question of where the servile youths are. Of course, the same can be asked of human youths, so maybe there are creches kept away from war zones. Well, the naturally born serviles all can have their bloodlines traced back to shaped serviles, so they are the descendants of shaped serviles, and therefore are a creation. ANYWAY! I made a somewhat empty tier map...it only has creatable creatures, unbound, and important plot creations...Here it is.. http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/194/geneforgecreationtiers.jpg It's a VERY large image, about 3000 by 1000 pixels, so if you have a slower computer, expect it to take a while to load. EDIT: OOPS! I put the Creator creature into tier 6 when i'm pretty sure it belongs in tier 7..I fixed the image

Originally Posted By: Master Ackrovan what about things like Batons, Servant Minds, Serviles, etc. The Highest Tier, I would think, is Tier 6, since Ur-Drakons and Eyebeasts are the most powerful creations you can make. Serviles are obviously a tier 1 creation, even the most lowly shapers create their own serviles to do their bidding (if they support the Shaper ways of course), and I'd place servant minds and the living draykish boat thing in tier 4, judging purely from the fact that they're similar (building on the combat stats of servant minds), and the skill of the shapers that are allowed to make them. Of course, if you listen to the random tidbits of information, you find that mines, batons, living tools, pylons, etc. are actually GROWN, not shaped, so they don't actually count. You can even find human non-shapers growing them in certain places. I'd say the tiers actually go up to 7, with the Creator creatures and the Unbound being in the 7th tier, even though you cannot create them.

Ever since G2 I've been naming my fyora Saphira after the dragon in Eragon . then when i unlock cryoa i destroy the fyora and create a cryoa Saphira, and then when i unlock Drayk i destroy the cryoa and create a Saphira Drayk, and then when i unlock dragon i destroy the drayk and create a drakon Saphira...lol

I find it pretty easy to use Tsearch or Cheat Engine to simply edit the number of skill points i have to freeze at like 30 and then just spend them all on the skills until they're lvl 31 ^^

Originally Posted By: Shaper Spddin Im personaly thinking that we should create an ending in which the war ends in a draw. The G4 area belongs to rebels....G5 area belongs to shapers Wouldn't that just be Astoria's Ending?

Originally Posted By: Eldibs I hate to revive a dead/dying topic, but anyways: A fix... If you can't get the puresteel from the Purity Workshop, press Shift+D and type sdf 73 10 0 I have no idea why that flag randomly gets set to 1 (which makes the game think you already opened the box), but setting it to 0 fixes it, allowing you to get the puresteel like normal. How you use this information is up to you. *goes to get 400000000 things of puresteel, make it all into blades, and sell them all*