Howdy... I'm new to the forum though not new to the Spiderweb games, have played demos of Exiles in the early days, and my first registered game was Geneforge 2... Later have it become to a bunch of games, and now is it only Geneforge 4 and 1, I haven't bought yet... I have tried the demo for Geneforge 1, and got a little surprised with the way I'm getting spells and creations... I'm usually playing a strict loyal shaper, and that counts for the carnisters too... So I was thinking: Is there a way to complete the game, and achieve spells and abillities without using the carnisters?