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The price is a reference, but not the only reference. The guardian claymore is one of the most versatile weapons in the game- everyone can use it and everyone wants it, but the spectral rapier has better stats at first glance- a bonus to armor, to parry, to stun resistance, and a higher base damage. However, that's easily countered by the bonus to strength from the guardian claymore.

 

The price is best as an order-of-magnitude guess. If a piece of armor is 10x more expensive than another armor, then the more expensive one is almost definitely better. Differences of a few hundred when the item itself is a few hundred don't mean much.

Quick question for those who have played through as rebels- are there any other trainers who will increase your skills in the forbidden spells/shapings? I know Fanjul will train you for cheap in the shaping that Rahul's wife also teaches, but are there any other rebel only trainers?

 

If not, it seems that the loyalists should have little trouble blowing away their enemies.

Weight is a great idea, but probably something I'm not going to be able to do at present since it's been a pain finding all those items a second time, and a third will probably drive me crazy. Although if it comes down to it, I could just look up the scripts.

 

Hopefully the item list will be straightened up a bit shortly, and will look better in the next version.

Gamefaqs chooses the name of the file I update, which is the source of much annoyance.

 

Oh well, at least they got the name everywhere else correct.

Sorry, I think I got confused with that wand. I will change it with the next update.

Hi all, the FAQ has been updated. I've taken most peoples comments/additions up through Saturday and have added them.

 

Also, the layout is slightly improved- a bit more definition between sections. Let me know what you think.

 

Thanks!

The recipes section is actually designed to look like that- namely the two critical ingredients are above and below the perfected item. I did this so that people can see the choices they have for the artifacts. However, I can see how it would be confusing. I will add some text describing this better.

 

An update with most of this info will be followed up with tomorrow. Thank you all!

Gamefaqs only allows text documents, so no division via html. Zeviz helped a bundle with splitting A2 and Nethergate, though.

 

EDIT: If you would like, once I've finished, I'm open to having someone make a webpage out of it.

 

Thank you all for the additions. I will try putting them in shortly.

Blackjack- thanks, will add. I had figured out the increase in QA from the tiny orb of mist, but I haven't tried any tests with it.

 

Walter- Has that been verified with Essence Armor? I thought people had found it didn't do that. Hm. Also, any idea on the damage percent lost by parry? I know that's part of the description, but I want to make sure it actually does that.

 

Hume- thanks, will add.

7 canisters, and augmentation by Tolleran, Orois Blaze, and Resnick doesn't count.

You are indeed correct as far as I can tell.

Check here to see my Geneforge 3 walkthrough. It's not yet complete, but soon will be. If you have any additions to the areas I've covered (opinions, skills, trainers) please let me know. I will provide an update sometime next week.

It's on Dhonal Island, at Dhonal West gates (just west of the main city.

I asked Jeff Vogel about this, and here's what he said:

 

So it looks like you could still complete after all. Did you look for the boat?

Rebel shapers have no problem with him as far as I can tell. They can get a bonus just the same as the rest.

Not a problem, just trying to get my notes as perfect as possible. Just finished Gull Island, and there's very little left. I've submitted an early version of the FAQ, hopefully it will appear shortly.

You're right. I caught this in the walkthrough, but it didn't make it to the list. I've added it now though.

 

Thanks.

 

Hey Zeviz- still no searer canister as far as I can tell- do you know where on the map to get it?

Did a quick bit of testing with some of the spells-

 

Essence shield and armor both increase your dodging ability, but do not reduce the amount of damage taken. Steel skin and protection both drop the amount of damage taken from a hit by 20%.

Hm- do you know where those are located? I have a canister of searer in Fort Kentia, and a create vlish at Main Army Camp (locked store room), but am missing those.

 

Thanks.

There's another shaped belt in Spharon's Lands, so by the time you're able to make the artifact, you'll have the necessary supplies.

Yup, that's true. Cut and paste from my guide, which will be out as soon as Gamefaqs updates their game data. Seems Geneforge 3 didn't make it onto their game list.

 

Canister locations:

Fort Kentia: Searer.

Lair of the Creator: Create Fyora, Unlock.

Underneath Rebel Peninsula: Create Roamer

Rebel Camp: Ice Spray, Create Vlish, Terror, Create Clawbug

Under San Ru: Create Clawbug

Dhonal Docks: Fire Shaping

Madness Mire: Create Artila

Twin Mind Tunnels: Healing Craft, Create Vlish

Holding Shed Row: Quick Action

Storage Road: Create Thahd

Mountain Pass: Create Fyora

Inner Keep: Create Drayk

Spharon’s Lands: Dominate, Create Artila

Blasted Laboratory: Create Roamer, Acid Shower

Ruined Mine Gates; Strong Daze

Darkstone Cave: Mass Energize

Searing Chambers: Healing Craft, Create Glaahk

Creator’s Hall: Steelskin, Battle Magic, Quick Action

Infested Mountains: Create Battle Alpha

Cultist Woods: Essence Orbs

Stonespire: Major Heal, Kill, Essence Armor, Create Drayk, Charisma

Display Warren: Major Heal

Crumbling Lab: Kill

Khor’s Deeps: Create Battle Alpha

Tower Path: Parry

Khyryk’s Tower: Major Heal, Create Drayk

Tower Gates: Group Heal

Breeding Caverns: Mental Magic, Create Glaahk

Maker’s Road: Essence Armor

Maker’s End: Create Rotghroth, Battle Roar

Spire Forest: Luck

Icy End: Aura of Flames, Mass Restore, Create Gazer

Southern Gates: Mass Madness

Benerii-Eo Gates: Battle Roar, Create Gazer

Mushroom Cave: Mass Restore

Benerii-Eo Labs: Battle Roar, Create Drakon, Dexterity, Strength, Mass Madness

Benerii-Eo Vat Core: Aura of Flames, Create Rotghroth

Geneforge: Endurance, Spellcraft, Create Drakon

 

Also, these are some of the increases that can be earned without a canister.

Skill/spell locations:

Level 1 School: Book of War Blessing

South End: Crider’s book of Create Thahd.

Testing Grounds: Books of Create Thahd, Create Artila

Under San Ru: Book of Healing Craft

Dhonal’s Keep: Aenele’s Q: Book of Healing Craft, Hubert’s Q: Book of Magic Shaping

Inner Keep: Books of Battle Magic, Healing Craft

Acid Valley: Tombs: Group Heal, Create Thahd, Create Clawbug, Thihn’s Ghost:

Intelligence, Endurance.

Main Army Camp: Erika’s Q: Healing Craft

Darkstone Mine: Books of Battle Shaping, Magic Shaping

Stonespire: Morgan Q: Healing Craft, Minor Heal, Heal

 

My list of trainers. One or two more may be found as I play through as a rebel.

South End: Crider (slightly expensive): Firebolt, Burning Spray, Daze, Mental

Barrier, War Blessing, Protection, Minor Healing, Cure Effects

 

Minefield Woods: Scintle (exorbitant): War Blessing, Protection, Essence

Shield, Minor Heal, Cure Effects, Augmentation

 

East Kentia: Hawthorne (expensive): Firebolt, Burning Spray, Searer, Daze,

Mental Barrier, Unlock, War Blessing, Protection, Essence Shield, Speed

 

San Ru: Diwaniya (expensive): Fyora, Roamer, Thahd, Artila, Vlish,

Firebolt, Burning Spray, Searer, Ice Spray, Daze, Mental Barrier, Unlock,

Terror, War Blessing, Protection, Essence Shield, Speed, Minor Heal, Cure

Effects, Augmentation, Heal

 

San Ru: Vandrin (expensive): Missile Weapons, Quick Action, Parry

 

Dhonal’s Keep: Gretchen (average for skills, slightly expensive for spells):

Battle Magic, Mental Magic, Blessing Magic, Spellcraft, Searer, Ice Spray,

Essence Orbs, Unlock, Terror, Dominate, Speed, Mass Energize, Steelskin,

Heal, Group Heal, Remove Effects

 

Dhonal's Keep: Fanjul (very reasonable): Roamer, Clawbug, Glaahk,

Battle Alpha

 

Inner Keep: Lady Anjali (exorbitant if lesser, expensive if greater): Fyora,

Roamer, Thahd, Clawbug, Battle Alpha (greater), Artila, Vlish, Glaahk

(greater)

 

Stonespire: Macallan (exorbitant): Melee Weapons, Missile Weapons, Quick

Action, Parry, Battle Magic, Mental Magic, Blessing Magic, Leadership,

Mechanics, Acid Shower, Steel Skin, Strong Daze, Remove Effects

 

Khyryk’s Tower: Khyryk (expensive): Clawbug, Battle Alpha, Rotghroth,

Vlish, Glaahk, Kill, Major Heal, Essence Orbs, Acid Shower, Dominate,

Strong Daze, Charisma, Mass Energize, Steel Skin, Essence Armor, Group

Heal, Remove Effects

 

Finally, the modifiers:

Besieged Camp: Resnick Q1: Mass Restore, Q2: Aura of Flames

Monastery of Tears: Tolleran: Strength, Dexterity, Intelligence, Endurance,

Mechanics for 6K each

Orois Blaze: Leadership, Mechanics, Mass Madness, Create Gazer for 5K each

Orois Blaze will give you one point. There are canisters in Icy End and Benerii-Eo Gates.

 

Rebels may have access to more, but I don't know.

It should be battle magic and spellcraft.

Hi all,

I've been away on a trip for the past week, but have hammered out a FAQ of the demo version. I will probably post to GameFAQs shortly. Comments/additions, etc are always appreciated.

Infiltrator's cloak, Tunic, and shield all add one point of mechanics each. Additionally, getting trained/altered by Tolleran (Monastery) and Orois Blaze in mechanics doesn't count as a canister. Will +5 do it for you?