Chief Spider watching The Simpsons

You couldn't remember where to get the last crystal? I don't remember where the crystal cave is!!! Shoot me.

Yes the bone thing was a joke, as were the other things. As for the Vahnavoi thing though, it couldn't have been avoided since they're undead, and undead leave bones behind. It's just the graphic, it doesn't really mean anything. But here's something I'll bet you didn't know: When the Vahnatai go into "resting," they get into the crystals by opening them up like doors (the crystal coffins have hinges on them, with body depressions, just like human coffins). There's really no other way. Any ways, I've discovered that instead of food, they fight each other in their minds and then "think-eat" each other! And instead of breathing, they absorb the minerals from the crystal coffins of the dead Vahnatai! Teleporter crystals serve as waste recepticles. This is why Vahnatai resting sites become ruins after so long. Facinating!

One thing confuses me about the name: Are we supposed to capitalize "Vahnatai?" I mean, we don't often capitalize "Human," but the Vahnatai are often so full of themselves, and it is refering to a specific race. Maybe we should start capitalizing both. Here's another fun fact about the Vahnatai: You know how the Vahnatai are so flexible? It's because they don't have bones.

Doesn't mean I can't make up extra! Here's another one: Do you know how today's Vahnatai are so thin? It's because they obey the teachings of the Crystal Souls so much, and the Crystal Souls, having become bored after so many millenia, decided to teach an entire race the philosophy of anorexea...

I just don't get it. And with what I've heard and the bit I AM able to understand, I hope I never do. I think I'll make up some Vahnatai stuff of my own! I'll be called "Doctor Vahnatai," and everyone will come to me for all their questions about Vahnatai with totally clever, made-up answers, even though I don't particularly like them. For example, do you know who REALLY made the crystals that Vahnatai love so much? The slimes! That's right, before Rentar Ihrono "created" (kidnapped) her own, some slimes would freeze themselves into crystals just before they died! I discovered this during field work, and exclaimed, "That's astounding, simply astounding!"

I didn't see anything about budding. Where is it?

And the item-drop system has been changed to make sense; archers drop bows, sliths drop spears, etc. It didn't make any sense whatsoever in the Exile games.

What I meant to ask was it was possible for them to do... that thing where a mommy Vahnatai and a daddy Vahnatai come together to... satisfy their "urges"... if it was possible to do with the little space they have on the little "beds" that look like saw horses with yellow spider webs spun between them. And if what Penultimatum said was correct and they really "bud" and don't get pregnant, how do the Vahnatai have any real fun?

I've seen that site before... before I even came to these boards, a few years ago, I found that site and the Vahnatai language. I have a copy of some of the language copy and pasted into a file. How did you find out so much about the Vahnatai language, anyway?

Yay! Then I can have some helpers clear the thick webs at the NW of the spider cave (near my little hill) where we put the bodies of all the mean, nasty people who didn't want to be friends and all their silly stuff!

Okay, I just drew up two ideas. I'm going to make photocopies and send them in to Spiderweb Software to see what they think. I'll ask them to post them so you guys can see. They will give you nightmares.

Nice try with the dog, except that dogs aren't sentient beings that have their own language. I also don't see why humans can't take up learning Novah either (eksept that their lang gwage is stupiderer and hard to figer out). And I'm not satisfied with the "crystals are like waveblades" answer. There is something deeper, and I wish someone with great authority would answer it... JEFF VOGEL, I SUMMON THEE!!! *cricket* Finally, I can and WILL discover what a pregnant Vahnatai looks like. I already have some theories based on what I just thought of right now. I'll draw some up! First, I'll need to distinguish between a male and female Vahnatai. To the Vahnatai women's dressing room!

I wasn't angry, and I haven't had any caffine today. It was partly a humor post, and I REALLY wanted to see what someone would visualize a pregnant Vahnatai as! Speaking of which... I know it would probably be very similar to human practice, but, how do they... um... like... you know... on those flimsy little hammocks? Is it... like... easy?

I don't think so. Something probably just... snapped. More information, please?

Well, it only kills YOU, is what it means, since you don't know how to deactivate the explosion like we experienced players do.

1. How do they spin those disks so far with their spindly little arms? 2. What does a pregnant Vahnatai look like? Or do they lay eggs? Or crystals? 3. How does one stitch mold into a cloak? 4. For a race that's so "superior," they sure have a lot of hatred to spread. 5. I have a theory. The Vahnatai alphabet goes something like this: a - crystal b - crystal c - crystal soul d - soul crystal e - crystal f - crystal g - crystal h - fine crystal i - crystal j - piercing crystal k - "Death to Empire! Death to Humans! Crystals are great!" l - crystal m - crystal n - unshackling crystal o - crystal p - endless razordisks for adventurers to pickup and sell for infinite gold q - crystal r - quickfire s - crystal t - mold u - is v - yummy w - Chitrach x - legacy y - power z - crystal 6. Aren't the Vahnatai getting tired of those waveblades yet? 7. With all the time they've spent around humans, you'd think a few Vahnatai language professors would be able to talk human talk pretty clearly by now! 8. WHAT'S WITH ALL THE FREAKIN' CRYSTALS!!!???

If any movie was made like that, it would probably be about Avernum. That said, Exile IS more of a classic. By the way, can you believe someone wants to make a "Halo" movie? I just HATE that game! And what would that movie even be about? No one except a few people who think drinking Mountain Dew makes them cool would even see it.

I've used Arcane Summon a few times. I really don't mind using the spell points (I carry around a lot of Energy potions), and the monsters you get are better "meat shields" than "Create Illusions" monsters that die in one hit. I generally don't like summoning, though, and it's annoying: a. when opponents won't fight you head-on by summoning endless monsters with endless SP, and b. so many spells were dedicated to summoning. There are a few more creative spells that could have been added in their place. I'm supprised so many other people think the same way about it I do, though. Jeff doesn't seem to.

Of course, I agree with Friendly Whomp. People use magic stupidly, or evily, but it's not bad (well, since it's not real). Like by Rentar, that was a good point. By the way, I heard that some other people had killed her in other ways before, but I did it too. I did Major Poison to her over and over, using the editor to restore Spell Points, doing 1 to 2 damage at a time (sometimes 3!). Has anyone else done it in some other way?

Oh, freak, I thought I was the only one annoyed by the "two step" annoyance from A1. Setting the speed lower didn't seem to work for me, and I just need to have it higher anyway, for everything else (got a lot of work to do killing those Imperial Slugs)! It would be REALLY cool if Mr. Vogel would release updates to the engines and bugs and stuff for registered users of his games. I would be on this site, like, eight times as much as I already am. Which isn't that much, actually. Sorry guys...

Yes, I know it probably belongs on the Trilogy boards. But I was going to start out with the beggar in Sattle from "Backwater Calls," then I went into a full-fledged rant against the Anama to offend a few and entertain the rest. Thanks to whoever moved it here.

That extremist cult just gets in the way of everything! Reject magic, bah! To what end? No wonder they couldn't purge those weakling cockroaches. But they can't even handle living by their own principles! They use piercing crystals and a little spell many of us know as DIVINE FIRE! So there's really no Anama who fully lives by his own doctrine, only "cafeteria Anama," like wanabe "Catholic" politicians Nobody really needed four secret agents of Avernum to go up and exterminate the cockroaches, if they would just bite their tounges and cast a few Far Sights around the island, finding the source and destroying the feeble machinery that kept the "plague" going. No, they had it easiest of all, but they would not only not take advantage of it, but they stifled anyone else using mage spells, trying to make a difference. And whoever wasn't a part of their hippy "peace and love" and "let's not just get bitten by weakling bugs, but let's do it TOGETHER while coughing and wheezing pathetically" majority, for that matter. I stole the Anama's treasure. I bought fake rings to invade their inner sanctum. I responded "No" to the priests philosophy questions around the island. I don't regret it. Oh, and you know that beggar in "Backwater Calls" who keeps saying, "reject magic! The end is coming!" Well, I blasted him with a level 10 Arcane Blow spell just for the heck of it.

Perhaps you're trying to open it with the wrong Avernum game, or have the wrong folder open? Try doing a search for all the ".sav" files on your computer.

36 - PLEASE! YES YES! Remove that stupid level cap for all eternity! I personally banish it to Hell! It makes the game so BORING after a certain point, namely what is supposed to be, "the good part." Oh, and I'm also one of the jerks who thinks Avernum would be cool online somehow. Or some game similar to it! Yay! Almighty Jeff, do you copy?

I dunno. Things like that have happened to me before (not often, of course) and truth be told, I'm not too computer savvy myself. Why don't you just try uninstalling/reinstalling it? What version of Windows / how old a machine are you using? Heck, I'll let you borrow my CD and even ship it for free if you promise that you bought the game: d g f d u c k @aol.com (e-mail spaced just to protect from scammers and spammers who seriously think that their handiwork is protected by "free-speech" rights)