I_am_a_Minotaur

Why do people think that the G3 Guardian sucks? Sure its not as good as the G2 one but it can still wipe the floor against the toughest enenmies in the game.

I was talking about the empire of the early Shapers.

When Masha is teaching you the Sholai language it says your languages are quite simaler. It also says in the temple that the writing on the walls ar vaguely familiar. Both languages probably developed from that one language.

SPOILER: / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / // Could the Sholai have come of Sucia Island? Maybe they were the common soldiers of the Empire? Possibly the Empire forces split between the Shapers and the Sholai? Shapers: War Mages, a few common soldiers, half the common people Sholai: Most of common soldiers, half of common people Perhaps half the population left the Shapers, blaiming them for the destruction of Sucia Island.

Ok, thanks.

Can anyone tell me the ending? I don't want to play through the game as one.

Quote: 12. You wish you could load a save file when you've done something you regret. Heh. I do that sometimes.

Ok, ok. I get it. You don't want to make an Ur-Drakon. But What ending wll it follow? Will it take place right after, a while after, or at the same time as G3? Will there be rebellions within each faction? Wll there be high ranking traitor spies? And finally.... will the Geneforge be already made?

What ending of G3 will it follow? Will there be Ur-Drakons roaming the land? Maybe you start of by meeting one. Will they be the 5th tier creation? Or will it follow the shaper ending? Will making and destroying Geneforges be the priority? Will it take place in the same time but on the mainland? I am undecided. What do YOU think?

I think that the Guardian should be like in G2 except with more mental resistance. The base damage of weapons needs to go up. The Puresteel Soulblade went from 15-120, +1 QA, +2 PA to 15-60, +1 QA, +2 PA. Thats a BIG drop and since the same happened to other weapons the Guardian was hit hard. This way with super parry, weapons with higher base damage and more mental resistance the Guardian will be as powerful as the Agent. That being said I still think the Guardian is as powerful as the Agent it's just that you need a certain playing style. My Guardian on Gull Island could kill my Agent on Isle of Spears. This is my Guardian Dakro Level: 33 Health 81 Essence 108 Spell Energy 74 Armor 110 Fire 70 Cold 70 Energy 70 Stun 103 Mental 40 Poison 82 Acid 32 Str 10 Dex 4 Int 4 End 14 MeW 10 MiW 7 QA 12 PA10 BM 0 MM 0 BlM3 SC 3 FS 1 BS 1 MS 1 HC 5 Lead. 11 Mech 14 Luck 9 With Stats approx. like this and the right tactics the Guardian can wipe the floor against EVERYTHING. Yes I do play Torment.

The Awakened could be in. There's more than one way to win a war. They sit could on the sidelines keeping the war going whatever possible way and when both sides are weak come in and force peace.

Being Awakened could be possible. Jeff said that he would have an elusive faction. The Awakened sit on the sidelines hiding but growing while watching the rebels and Shapers beat each other up with a well placed assanation or to to keep the fighting going. After both sides are really weak they step in and force peace onto the world. They could be made up of Shapers like Khyrk and Sharon, Serviles like Pinner, Drakons like Orious Blaze & Sholai.

I hope guns don't appear. I'd stop playing if they did.

Quote: origanally written by bubb9: P.S. I am a minotaur try going to preferences and then changing the level I have put it on torment and the only guardian that was ever hard was Rahul. By yourself about 20 can be a problem but think.... an army is attacking a fortress with 100 glahks(spell?) and only 20 guardians stand in the way...... I hope minotaurs appear. They could be a result of trying to make a fighting ornk (making it a humanoid with a lot more brains, size and strength) but they made it to smart and by the time the revolted there were to many of them to suppress the uprising so the Shapers were forced to let them go. P.S. Incase you didn't know the Guardians would get slaughtered.

I think that the normal NPC guardians should be stronger. They are supposed to be elite human warriors but guards are stronger than them. I hope that Rahul gives his position to another guardian and with Alwan moves to the mainland to build a huge fortress. Greta should become one of the few Shapers allied with the rebels. You should be a human that is starting as a guard but has been augmented to be able to shape.

Quote: Origanilly written by Dikiyoba: Dikiyoba wonders how much it would take to manually replace a shaper/guardian/agent graphic with a drakon graphic, just to make I_am_a_Minotaur happy and be able to move on? Its not just that.... I would like a story that interworks the fact that you are a drakon into the plot.

Quote: Origanilly written by SOT: Just as my annoyance was reaching threshold, I start to admire the persistence. I admire your ability to admire someone you find annoying. Quote: Origanilly written by VCH: Why not play a Vahanatai warrior? Maybe a giant bird or something. Why not? I woudn't want to because I would consider it boring but otherwise I can't find anything wrong with that except that it would be hard to introduce flight into the game.

You won't really be a teenage drakon. You'll be in between hatchling and adult.

Quote: Origanilly written by Dikiyoba: 1. They're too powerful for an avatar. 2. They're arrogant. 3. The idea has been done to death around here. 4. They're not creative or impressive, just powerful. 1. As I have said before, a young, growing Drakon. Like a Teenager Drakon. 2. The ones that are Shaped are...what about the ones that aren't? 3. So? 4. Have you seen a humonoid dragon in any other game? Quote: Origanilly written by VCH: 5. Drakons are just slightly too big for most buildings. 5. Teenager Drakon = about 8 feet tall, 1 foot taller than Rahul.

Nobody has answered me yet. I know you don't like Drakons but what exactly is wrong with them?

What about born Drakons? Not all are created. Some start out as babies.

What do you have agaist drakons? Is there a reason you don't like them?

Quote: Did you read the topic? You're not a drakon. Quote: Thuryl: quote: Did you read the topic? You're not a drakon. You expect n00bs to read the topic in depth before hitting the reply button? Wow, your standards are rather high, doncha think?. You guys seem to be the ones who haven't read the forum.... though it says that you won't be a Shaper it also says that ALL OF THIS IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE .

Continuation of my earlier post. Each Drakon Lord will be building a Geneforge while Ghaldring is guarding the closest to made one as the Drakon makinng it was killed.

I think that there should be 3rd faction shouldn't be elusive and a 4th one that is. Factions Shapers: You know what this faction is. Rulers: Rahul, Shaper Council, Shaper leaders in G3 you tell your story to. Rebels: You know what this faction is. Rulers:Ghaldring, 3 Drakon Lords Servile, Human, Drakon and Shaper Awakened: Awakened with Shapers and Drakons Rulers: Khryk, Sharon, Giant kind Drakon, Orios Blaze I don't have an idea for the 4th faction except that its elusive. (elusive is a stolen idea) You are a young Drakon that was training until the Drakon Training School(Rebel) was shut down. Now, only having just started training, you are left alone to decide what to do. 3 classes: Warrior Drakon: Str: 4 Dex: 3 Int: 2 End: 4 Battle Skills Melee: 4 Breath(B M): 2 M M: 1 Bl M: 2 Shaping: B Shaping: 1 F Shaping: 1 M Shaping: 0 Form Shaping(changing someones attributes): 0 Magical Healing(healing with magic): 2 General Skills: Mechanics: 3 Leadership: 3 Luck: 1 Herb Lore(Knowlegde of herbs): 3 Shaping Lore(Knowlegde of Shaping): 3 Herb Healing(Healing using herbs): 3 Wizard Drakon Str: 2 Dex: 3 Int: 4 End: 2 Battle Skills Melee: 2 Breath(B M): 4 M M: 3 Bl M: 4 Shaping: B Shaping: 1 F Shaping: 1 M Shaping: 1 Form Shaping(changing someones attributes): 1 Magical Healing(healing with magic): 4 General Skills: Mechanics: 2 Leadership: 2 Luck: 1 Herb Lore(Knowlegde of herbs): 2 Shaping Lore(Knowlegde of Shaping): 3 Herb Healing(Healing using herbs): 2 Shaper Drakon Str: 2 Dex: 2 Int: 5 End: 2 Battle Skills Melee: 1 Breath(B M): 3 M M: 2 Bl M: 3 Shaping: B Shaping: 2 F Shaping: 2 M Shaping: 2 Form Shaping(changing someones attributes): 1 Magical Healing(healing with magic): 4 General Skills: Mechanics: 2 Leadership: 2 Luck: 1 Herb Lore(Knowlegde of herbs): 2 Shaping Lore(Knowlegde of Shaping): 3 Herb Healing(Healing using herbs): 2 Any thoughts?