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  1. 3 hours ago, alhoon said:

    That's what I mean with the "low magic" world. One of the biggest acts of magic in the books were the red-haired witch that was supporting Stannis Baratheon SHAPING a shade - or giving birth to a shadow demon. And using magic to shape herself young. 

    Pffft. I say PFFFT. A shaper would laugh with that n0000b. 

     

    Also, for GoT, let's define some things. 

    Do we mean Shaper as in "loyalist" ? Do we mean Shaper as Lifecrafter? 

    Because a Barzite in GoT world would act very differently than a Shaper. A Taker would do his or her thing, free from the oppressive weight of the Shapers. An Awakened now... 

    that is a hard one. They are not adverse to power and they are pro-Shaper ideas with the exception of Creation rights. An Awakened would probably not be fine with some of the things, the few things, mages do in GoT. I don't just mean Shaping a Shade to kill a competitor, but also what that priest of light did with saving someone from the dead. 

    An Awakened or a Shaper now, would also try to deal with that strange disease we saw in the tv series (I have read up to book 4 and not all of it, so some things I saw only on the series which I watched till season 6; not season 7 or 8). 

    A taker would probably take the side of the deformed people with the disease that go mad and try to cure them and/or make them into an army so that those dregs of society could Take their Free.

    A Shaper would try to contain them first and then, if possible cure.

    An Awakened would probably bring a compassionate approach of healing and containment till those going mad had to be put down. I THINK. 

    A Barzite would weaponize the disease and try to Shape it in a way that it would give him control of the people affected by it. Because Barzites are mostly evil control freaks. 

     

    Any input here? 

    I think I am spot on the "expected", middle-of-the-pack Shaper and Taker reply to that disease that turned people to mad disfigured people. 

    But I am not sure on the Awakened and Barzite response. 

    Wow that's a very in-depth look at the reaction from all of the factions, but I would be more incline to loyalist or awakened.

  2. Come to think of it I came across a crossover quest sometime ago, the guy who made this quest had a Shaper being thrown into the Game of thrones world and it's a rather interesting one; which contains intriguing views coming from the shaper's pov, link's down below if anyone is interested.

    https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/a-shaper-of-ice-and-fire-geneforge-got-crossover.6028/reader/

  3. On 3/24/2024 at 4:47 AM, alhoon said:

    I can tell you that, because I have run such a campaign in Ravenloft.

    Long story short, the Shaper has insane power. Thus, either the Shaper choses to hide it, or the Shaper uses it.

     

    - If the Shaper uses it, he or she attracts a ton of attention as most places in Ravenloft view magic as inherently evil and that is before an outlander with a superiority complex starts throwing monsters out.  Thus, the Shaper will either have to become progressively more violent to defend himself/herself or the Shaper will be swallowed by the fear he or she causes - to the evil creatures of the domain or the Darklord or even the not-bad populace that sees the nose-in-the-sky, pro-magocracy guy as a threat. 

     

    - if the Shaper decides to hide the power to avoid the above, the Dark Power (or the DM) would throw increasingly more tempting curveballs to the Shaper's way, trying to push the Shaper to reveal his or her great power and go the other route. If the Shaper uses magic to heal, then priests would consider that Shaper a cleric of a bizarre deity. Again, that's dangerous in many places but honestly, it is perhaps the safest route. 

     

    Now, in my campaign, the Shaper in question was pretty weak. She decided to keep the power hidden. Lasted for a session and a half before the party she was in needed "a bit of extra help" after they got injured and isolated in a room within a cursed house. She tried to pass the Creations she made as summonings but after the first two creations died and she was exhibiting sadness and anger over her creations dying - and summoning does not work in the usual way in Ravenloft - the others figured something was amiss. Furthermore, the dead creations left behind their bodies. And the two creations that survived didn't dissipate. 

    Well, one turned rogue later and she killed it immediately, without any regrets, calling it "a rogue". By that time, the other characters (not they players, they were aware) were really mistrusting her and confronted her about it. The character, not accustomed to dirty non-Shapers questioning her had a negative reaction and eventually pompously explained what she could do. 

    Then, not much later, the party learned of a cursed lake that was spawning what she called rogues. The Shaper was pretty sure that was an essence pool that someone was misusing. Not completely correct but not 100% wrong either; it was a cursed pool that evil druids were using to augment animals under their control and turn them evil. Like awaken animal but with some boost on the stats. Nature versus civilization kind. 

    Eventually the short campaign ended without resolution as life got in the way. 

    The Darklord afraid of the shaper, really? Cause I thought they would be more powerful than a shaper could be.

  4. 3 minutes ago, alhoon said:

    She was actually expecting them to not believe it, but she was a bit hurt. I am not sure if that was a bit of player-thought tainting how the character would react though; hard to play when none of your fellow characters like you. 

    For Creations, I had a bunch of custom made ones. She opted for one flying thing with a poison stinger (similar to pseudodragon, now that I think of it, but the poison didn't put someone to sleep, but did damage) and ... something that was not flying and spitting acid. Not like the roamers though; I don't remember. 

    I had more in mind, but they were never Shaped in game. 

    Oh you shaped a wingbolt and an artila in the campaign, nice.

  5. On 3/24/2024 at 10:55 AM, alhoon said:

    From "burn the witch" to "she is lying! SHE IS LYING!!! Only the gods can create life!" 

    They never trusted her, even before they found out. They were an untrustworthy bunch. One character tried to shoot her in the back (I was playing Ravenloft with 17th century tech) because of... I don't remember. Somethng with splitting the loot and her being superior while he was a slave or something. 

    The in-game disagreement turned to an out-of-game disagreement and contributed to the game ending early. Also the mistrust didn't go just towards the Shaper's character. Half the party didn't trust the other half. They were working together because they had to, not because they wanted to. 

     

    I don't remember much but many of the characters were from a world where a large nation was deep into rebellion with Monarchists against Republicans. Not French Revolution, not exactly; the sides were mostly on equal footing. Regardless, the monarchists didn't like those that were pro-Republic. Another outlander was from a military dictatorship (Kinda - think like early Rome / Sparta). And the Shaper was from a magocracy. 

    In hindsight, it was a recipe for disaster. 

    Also, I wonder if the Shaper's reactions to her party members in denial would be like "Why is this so difficult for everyone to accept". Oh and btw what creations did you used in the campaign?

     

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