Ineffable Wingbolt I_am_a_Minotaur Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Why do people think that the G3 Guardian sucks? Sure its not as good as the G2 one but it can still wipe the floor against the toughest enenmies in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 It seems like Dikiyoba has heard people say that melee weapons only do about half the damage in G3 that they did in G2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt I_am_a_Minotaur Posted May 21, 2006 Author Share Posted May 21, 2006 You can still own anything the game can throw at you. You just have to build you Guardian properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Major Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Playing a solo guardian in gf2 was easy. It's... just... that... it's... trickier? In gf3. But, I still had no problem with it. I managed to beat the demo playing solo melee guardian, dying only twice. Once while fighting the warped creator. The other time a vlish hit me by suprise. Yes! I'm a mercenary! (So pay 500 bucks and I'll kill this part.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk The1Kobra Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 OK, just some statistics for ya... Melee weapons are D4 instead of D8, the damage is almost halved, and most battle magic spells are better, probably a change for the worse. Parry also is not as good in Gf3.(It was broken in Gf2) It parries on 2% per instead of 5% per, and guardians generally get a lot of parry, probably a change for the better as a guardian with about 16 parry was almost untouchable... And most of all, a lot of the spells got better, particularly the mental ones, and guardians dont cast a lot of spells... This is my thesis anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk The1Kobra Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 OK, just some statistics for ya... Melee weapons are D4 instead of D8, the damage is almost halved, and most battle magic spells are better, probably a change for the worse. Parry also is not as good in Gf3.(It was broken in Gf2) It parries on 2% per instead of 5% per, and guardians generally get a lot of parry, probably a change for the better as a guardian with about 16 parry was almost untouchable... And most of all, a lot of the spells got better, particularly the mental ones, and guardians dont cast a lot of spells... This is my thesis anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Major Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 You don't have to say it twice. Yes, it is alot harder in geneforge 3, but not enough to change my tactics. D4 to D8, that is half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Quote: Originally written by Major:You don't have to say it twice. Yes, it is alot harder in geneforge 3, but not enough to change my tactics. D4 to D8, that is half. A d4 actually does a bit more than half the average damage of a d8; the average of 1d4 is 2.5, while the average of 1d8 is 4.5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt I_am_a_Minotaur Posted May 22, 2006 Author Share Posted May 22, 2006 The Guardian may have lost power without parry and Melee damage but the forging has helped it alot. With a reviving crystal on your sword and high QA a properly built Guardian should do around 100 average and heal itself by about 50. If you have 500 health the you can kill anything in the game. When I fought Akhari on torment I had Resnick, Swanick and the Agent. There was also me and Alwan. I walked in, blessed and hasted with 18 AP. Akhari Blaze was to easy to kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk MagmaDragoon Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 I agree with I_am_a_Minotaur. The Guardian is a good character, is no more/less powerful than the Agent. And isn't harder play with him. It just need a properly built. And Akari is easy to defeat alone too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt I_am_a_Minotaur Posted May 22, 2006 Author Share Posted May 22, 2006 Quote: And Akari is easy to defeat alone too. I wouldn't know I haven't tried. My Guardian was a powerhouse with no use of missile weapons. By the end of the game if you have these stats you should do fine. Equipment -Symbotic Cloak -Quicksilver Bulwark -Lightning Girdle -Guardian Claymore -Quicksilver Sandals -Talisman of Might -Emerald Chestguard -Gloves of the Rock -Avenger's Ring -Gazerskin Vambraces -Lucky Charm -Skein of Wisdom -Charm of Mental Focus(2) -Blademaster's Charm -Inflitraitor's Charm -Cryoa Claw Charm -Esscence Charm -Puresteel Charm 98% Armor Resistances -77% Fire -80% Cold -77% Energy -148% Stun (only the Shambling Rotbeasts could stun me) -66% Mental (effectively immune) -105% Poison (effectively immune) -60% Acid (still got covered a lot, not damaged much though) Health 504 Essence 156 Spell Energy 106 Action Points 13 (19.5 when hasted) Skills Base Skills -14 Strength -7 Dexterity -5 Intelligence -16 Endurance Combat Skills -15 Melee -7 Missile Weapons -16 Quick Action -13 Parry Magic Skills -0 Battle Magic -0 Mental Magic -3 Blessing Magic -2 Spellcraft Shaping Skills -1 Fire Shaping -1 Battle Shaping -1 Magic Shaping -6 Healing Craft General Skills -12 Leadership -15 Mechanics -8 Luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk MagmaDragoon Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 My Guardian: He's equipped with: * Simbiotic Cloak * Quicksilver Bulkward * Lightning Girdle * Puresteel Soulblade * Gazerskin Sandals * Talisman of Might * Emerald Chestguard * Ornkskin Gloves * Infiltrator's Ring * Gazerskin Vambraces And: (Matteo is lvl.42) * 108% Armor * Resistances</font> * * <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> * 97% Fire * 97% Cold * 97% Energy * 188% Stun * 116% Mental * 108% Poison * 110% Acid </font> * Health 402 * Essence 384 * Spell Energy 258 * Action Points ? (11 I think, 16 when Hasted) * Skills * <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Base Skills * * <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> * 16 Strength * 14 Dexterity * 12 Intelligence * 13 Endurance </font> * Combat Skills * <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">14 Melee * 5 Missile Weapons * 16 Quick Action * 20 Parry </font> * Magic Skills * <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">2 Battle Magic * 1 Mental Magic * 5 Blessing Magic * 4 Spellcraft </font> * Shaping Skills * <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">7 Fire Shaping * 7 Battle Shaping * 7 Magic Shaping * 16 Healing Craft </font> * General Skills * <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">13 Leadership * 14 Mechanics * 8 Luck </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font></li> Also, I have 180 LT . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt I_am_a_Minotaur Posted May 22, 2006 Author Share Posted May 22, 2006 What difficulty are you playing on? I play on torment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Major Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Torment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast VCH Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 My Guardian could so beat up your guardians! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk MagmaDragoon Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Quote: Originally written by Bobby Pendragon:What difficulty are you playing on? I play on torment. Tricky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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