Garrulous Glaahk Kyronea Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 I've already tried running the installation programs in various compatibility modes, but they haven't worked. It just keeps telling me that "the image file is valid but for a machine type other than the current machine." I'm really wanting to play the old Exile versions over the Avernum versions, hence why I'm trying to get these working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Micawber Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 I think a 16 bit app won't run on a 64 bit OS. You'll need to try using a VM (virtualbox is ok). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Kyronea Posted July 8, 2011 Author Share Posted July 8, 2011 Ah. Drat. I was hoping to avoid having to go to that extra length. Ah well. Tis worth it for these games. Thank you kindly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 DosBox is also supposed to be good, though I've never used it. Originally Posted By: Micawber I think a 16 bit app won't run on a 64 bit OS. They won't; I've tried several. Very few, if any, 16-bit apps will run in a 64-bit environment, and those that do tend to be very unstable at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I have used DOS-Box on XP Professional (32-bit), and it works very well for 16-bit DOS games, such as Wolfenstein 3D and Doom. The Kings Quest series plays very nicely as well, all 7 episodes. It would be interesting to know if it runs on 64-bit Vista or Windows 7. However it is designed to play games written for Pre-Windows DOS. I don't think it will run Windows based games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Originally Posted By: Harehunter I have used DOS-Box on XP Professional (32-bit), and it works very well for 16-bit DOS games, such as Wolfenstein 3D and Doom. The Kings Quest series plays very nicely as well, all 7 episodes. It would be interesting to know if it runs on 64-bit Vista or Windows 7. However it is designed to play games written for Pre-Windows DOS. I don't think it will run Windows based games. If you can get your hands on Windows 3.1, you can install it in DOSBox and then install the Exile games in Windows 3.1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 I had forgotten that Win 3.1 was an app running on top of DOS. Elegant solution Tyranicus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Kyronea Posted July 14, 2011 Author Share Posted July 14, 2011 Yes that is indeed an elegant, excellent solution. Thank you very kindly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I have actually installed Windows 3.1 on DOSBox .74 and installed all the Exiles to the Win3.1. Here is the article I used to do this. I also saw an article on the VOGONS site for running Windows 95/09 on DOSBox, but this is a bit more complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora Zfighter Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I used the same guide, but when you play the game does you mouse cursor disappear at all when you move it along the screen? That happens to me in most of the interfaces within the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 You have to click your mouse into the DOSBox environment. Once there you have too scroll around to find your mouse cursor. It won't be where you clicked, it will be where you left it last when you left DOSBox, or in some default location. Once your mouse is in the DOSBox, you cannot move it outside the Box. You have to Alt-Tab to an application in your XP environment to get out. I hope this makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I think you can press some hotkey to release the mouse. No idea what key though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora Zfighter Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 No I know about all that, to be more specific, lets say you're playing E2 and you start a new game, when the pop up with the intro story appears if I move my mouse around inside the pop up only, it will disappear (almost flash) and then reappear when stop moving the mouse. Outside of that window (still within the main screen, and Dosbox) it works just fine. It only occurs with story pop ups, character editor, talking to people etc... Not sure if anyone has a hot clue what I mean, not too sure how to explain it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 I see what you mean. I just had not paid that close attention to it. I've tried turning up the mouse tracking parameter in the Windows 3.1 setup, but to no good effect. There are tunable parameters in the DOSBox.conf file. I'll do some research on those. You might do the same. This setup of Windows may be stretching the limits in DOSBox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Honestly, it's probably easier to use VirtualBox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 I had not heard of that critter. I am downloading it now and will give it a try. I'll post as soon as I have some info. Thanks. --edit Interesting! Windows XP doesn't like installing it. It complains about "Windows Logo testing to verify its compatibility with Windows XP" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Windows has a tendency to not want to work with non-Microsoft products. It's intentional to convince you that something bad will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Especially when the software is being developed by one of its major competitors. Vitualbox was developed by Sun; you know, the people who came out with OpenOffice, a directly competitive !!!freeware!!! product to MS Office. Now Sun is owned by Oracle, another major rival to MS SQLServer. No love lost there. I'll try it on a machine I don't care that much about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 VitualBox should work just fine with a WinXP host computer; however, I just checked the VitualBox site, and they said it only supports 32-bit WinXP hosts. Also, you'll need a (preferably legal) copy of whatever OS you plan to emulate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd icedan77 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 new here but long time exile fan not sure if this is the right spot to post this Q but it looks about right topic so here it is. I have a new pc with win 7 64bit (not win 7 pro) and I have the 3 exiles on cd in the mail to me waiting atm I thought id ask and see if anyone else has had any luck with my 2 starting ideas (i know it will work on a VM but i dont want to shell out extra cash if I dont have to) ok so has anyone had any luck runing this in something like dos box? I know it plays some of the older games that played in win but I am not very good with dos box and my other idea was to try to run it with steam as a non steam game hopeing it work as I got gene forge 1-5 off steam and found spiderweb software still alive after all these years back when I had just got exile 1 off a shairware cd and got the full ves <3 years ago anyways thanks for looking and sorry for runinng A two line Q into a mess >_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 I have limited DOSBox experience. I don't think Steam is your ticket, though. Old games on Steam are usually updated and re-released. If the game won't run, Steam won't make it run. —Alorael, who really would give DOSBox and VirtualBox chances. They have fairly helpful communities even if your technical understanding is nil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd icedan77 Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 thanks i am not holding much hope for dos box as exile ran in a windo not full screan dos so i mite be in A mess but I can make it work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 I don't know how it works on 64-bit, but I did get a very successful load of Windows 3.1 on DOSBox on a couple of 32-bit winxp's, and all three Exiles copied into into it and they run just fine. Actually, after installing it on one box, I copied the whole shebang onto a flash drive, plugged into another box, and ran directly off the flash. The cursor has a bit of an annoying habit of disappearing when you move it, but settles in nicely when you stop. That is the only annoyance I have noticed. I have yet to work up the time and ambition for a Win98 load. It might work better, but on the other hand, it might work worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Originally Posted By: Harehunter I don't know how it works on 64-bit, but I did get a very successful load of Windows 3.1 on DOSBox on a couple of 32-bit winxp's, and all three Exiles copied into into it and they run just fine. Actually, after installing it on one box, I copied the whole shebang onto a flash drive, plugged into another box, and ran directly off the flash. The cursor has a bit of an annoying habit of disappearing when you move it, but settles in nicely when you stop. That is the only annoyance I have noticed. I have yet to work up the time and ambition for a Win98 load. It might work better, but on the other hand, it might work worse. On 32-bit XP, the Exile games run natively if you put them in compatibility mode. Why were you even using DOSBox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Just to see if I could get it to work. It does take a little bit of holding your mouth just right to install Win3.1 in DOSBox, but the trick is digging up those old drivers for sound and mouse. I would be very interested to find out if it actually worked on a 64-bit machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd icedan77 Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 if I rember right it ran fine on my old pc and it was win xp but I am not 100% sure on that I really have a distaste for how the new stuff wont run the old games as I love to play the older games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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