Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Jeff has come down from the mount to announce 40 more days and nights of beta testing before the release, hopefully in late November. This offer is subject to change without prior notice. We finally get to see the final part of the game, if it ever finishes downloading. Some graphics and screens are not in final form. You can craft up to 16 different artifacts during the game if you find the right ingredients and know their recipes. Plus the usual assortment of wands and other lesser items. For those of you planning to play the game more than once. You should play a servile just to see all their specific dialog and see what it's like a the bottom. Also run a rebel aligned character to see the Delicious Vlish reference in the later part of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Originally Posted By: Randomizer Also run a rebel aligned character to see the Delicious Vlish reference in the later part of the game. What is this madness, and what threats did DV use to bring it about? Also, would you please sticky this thread (and perhaps desticky the old ones)? Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Silver Shadow Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I can't wait to meet the Shaper Council. (grins evilly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 Originally Posted By: Dikiyoba Originally Posted By: Randomizer Also run a rebel aligned character to see the Delicious Vlish reference in the later part of the game. What is this madness, and what threats did DV use to bring it about? Dikiyoba. A - He's magically delicious B - He threated to use fiesty slaps (tentacles) of pain C - Vlsih mind control D - All of the above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Goldengirl Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Have the beta-testers got the pleasure of meeting the offending council? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 After all that effort on the invitation quests, we deserved to see the results of our hard work. So yes. Still not done with the game. I've got a few more zones to go with this faction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Goldengirl Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Originally Posted By: Randomizer After all that effort on the invitation quests, we deserved to see the results of our hard work. So yes. Still not done with the game. I've got a few more zones to go with this faction. Ah, good. Tell us if the endings do the epic any justice... But, to my original question, is the Shaper Council a hive mind, so to speak, or all they all characterized... And, as an afterthought, anyone we know who's on the Council? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Originally Posted By: Randomizer Jeff has come down from the mount to announce 40 more days and nights of beta testing before the release, hopefully in late November. This offer is subject to change without prior notice. We finally get to see the final part of the game, if it ever finishes downloading. Some graphics and screens are not in final form. You can craft up to 16 different artifacts during the game if you find the right ingredients and know their recipes. Plus the usual assortment of wands and other lesser items. For those of you planning to play the game more than once. You should play a servile just to see all their specific dialog and see what it's like a the bottom. Also run a rebel aligned character to see the Delicious Vlish reference in the later part of the game. I hate you with a passion. Torutureing me like this. 2 questions 1) Will the Shaper Council area be like Queass-ass, being a single very involved map(or maybe two) 2) Has Jeff added more areas to the game, including Dungen areas(being more than 80) >If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. You teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime......but if you give him a pack of ornks, you feed him and his entire village. Why are you so cruel?< The Chinese/Me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 You will get to meet most of the Council before you reach the endgame. Quote: 1) Will the Shaper Council area be like Quess-uss, being a single very involved map(or maybe two)? I still have to finish so it isn't quite the same as GF4. But the Shaper Citadel is more than one zone. Quote: 2) Has Jeff added more areas to the game, including Dungen areas(being more than 80) There are 82 zones currently scripted. Some areas can only be visited by certain factions so powergaming to shift sides will allow you to see more of the game. Also some zones react differently depending upon what side you are on at the time you enter and what you have done. It's kind of like the ending to GF4 on a broader scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Oh, I think I just fraqtured my spin(from violenly shakeing up and down because of my own glee). One last question(maybe), will the game play more like GF1 or GF2? As in will there be 5 blobs of land connected by sharp, tiny pases or one huge blob of land connected only by your level and skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 The game map is more closely related to GF4 with play restricted by certain zones that have major quests that need to be done to go into the next group of zones. No more wasting hours boating your hoard from island to island. I do recommend piling it up in a border zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Quote: I do recommend piling it up in a border zone. Here I thought I was the only one who thought of that. Out of curiosity, do you think that the new class is good. Because it seems to me that playing with a high magic/medium shapeing character would be to easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Goldengirl Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 That Shaper Citadel has me wondering... what's the Shaper Citadel called? Or is it just called that... I'm hoping for something creative. Also, any other provinces or whatever names I could know? Continent names, provinces, cities, whatever. I'm a geographical name nerd, I suppose. Comes from making lots of maps in your spare time, I s'pose. Not that I have any spare time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Originally Posted By: Goldenking That Shaper Citadel has me wondering... what's the Shaper Citadel called? Or is it just called that... We're talking about the same Jeff who made a big point of the Empire just being called the Empire, and who named all of Valorim's provinces after his ex-girlfriends. I wouldn't expect a particularly creative name if I were you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Alwan is in the city of Stromhold. In Strom Plains. Rawuls fortress is in Iscnwood spire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 Correcting some spelling errors: Alwan is in the city of Stormhold in the Storm Plains. Rawal is Isenwood's Spire. Jeff recycles some names so Footracer is getting overrun again and we still don't know what she did to deserve it. The new class is runable just like an agent with the bonus that the extra essence can be used for creations to help out with the fighting. I only ran it for a while (20 zones), but it works better than a shaper since your buffs last longer and you can do decent spell damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 The new class is gonna be the clear winner, hands down -- but we knew this two years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan AnarhIztok2511 Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 But still, the Servile will be the cutest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Delicious Vlish Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 I had no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd The Flaming Cuckatoo Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Sometimes I wonder if it is really worth reading all these tantalising bits of information... Perhaps it is an inate instict to inflict such torture on myself? All I have to say is I'm glad that I can run as an Agent again, because I really like her (me being a loner and all, though creations are cool), and I really want to know what in heaven's name happened to Alwan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Luca Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Reinforcements found Alwan in the inner shaping hall, after killing everything inside single handedly, with his arms and a leg fifty feet away from his body, and a metal spike going through his liver, an ear cut off, nose missing, but with an extra toe. “I’s all good,” says General Alwan… shape me some prosthetics. No, not really, but my, that would make a kick'n story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Xelgion Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 A bloody scene is at stake, solider corpse after solider corpse, drakon among drakon, when in the middle of the battlefield, you see, a blood-stained beak of a cuckoo, in the hand of Dr. House. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 12, 2008 Author Share Posted October 12, 2008 Back on track for a post. There are now 82 zones with the addition of the optional expert dungeon designed to kill you all. One zone will not be available unless you belong to the extremist Rebel faction so you should save before joining and finishing off the game. For some of you this will be very important so you can express your feelings to certain faction leaders. Jeff hasn't included the dialog option where you can tell them what you think, so actions will have to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Kinda bites that lots of people won't get to see it, but I have a feeling I'll be going hard-line Rebel on my first run, so I can't wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 You mean we still don't get to court Litalia? ø_ø Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Dark Neptune Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 This is great news. Too bad, Jeff prefers Macintosh, so Windows users have to suffer at least 2-3 months before Geneforge 5: Overthrow's release. Randomizer, how about the second tier creations? Did Jeff replace those "Create, fight gloriously, and after a while, disinteragate and collapse" like Shock Tralls with better, but balanced, designs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Hey, hey, it's a good thing that we PC users get to wait. By the time the game is released for us, there'll be a guide up showing us how to make the most of rep, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Luca Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Getting a new release and using it on a mac here is apparently like beta testing. You get to point out all the errors and surprise glitches, except you don’t get to influence the game in its creation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 13, 2008 Author Share Posted October 13, 2008 I'll have to let someone that actually uses creations tell you what Jeff did. Although Jeff did mention that most of us seem to not use creations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Goldengirl Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Originally Posted By: Randomizer I'll have to let someone that actually uses creations tell you what Jeff did. Although Jeff did mention that most of us seem to not use creations. Why? Do the creations fail at doing something constructive, or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Nalyd doesn't, simply because he much prefers to hoard experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 14, 2008 Author Share Posted October 14, 2008 I got tired of coddling those lazy experience sponges that couldn't take a hit without folding up like a cheap newspaper. Well on torment the expert area has monsters that dish out 1000+ damage an attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I can't help but find it ironic that most people don't seem to use creations in a game thats virtually about making your own servants. I personally use the Warrior/Guardian class so 3 or 4 creations and thats enough. I never really feel a terrible loss at a few expereince points. >Geneforge Joke: Who is a gazer's best friend? Click to reveal.. An Eye Docter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Dark Neptune Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I think some people who enjoy Geneforge prefers spells rather than creations to kill those A.I. dummies. The 4 things that make the Geneforge series a win: *Creations *Spells *Gameplay *Storyline How can one not use all 4 of them? 1000+ damage per turn? That, to me looks more like a totally-devestating Unbound rogue mutant's fiery. Doubt any Shaper from the Shaper Council can do more than 500+ damage per turn. I wonder who else here who did the beta testing actually tested the creations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Xelgion Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Originally Posted By: Dark Nept 1000+ damage per turn? Unbound could easily do that, since non hasted they have 17 AP, and if hasted 22. The PC can do it too. My Servile did around 300 per strike to the average foe at the end, and he almost always got a second strike, and with a couple of quicksilver items and speed, I got 15 ap per round. So lets say I did full damage and hit every time with a second strike. Thats 300x6. 1800 Damage per round. And I'm not all that much of a powergamer, if you look at Synergys Infiltrator, you will find that kill did 450 per strike, let alone her Ur-Drakon adding in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Shaper Anton Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Imagine Creations being able to wear equips and Ur-Drakon/Unbound wearing Quicksilvers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug Fringy MacGee Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Deadweight Shapers FTW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 14, 2008 Author Share Posted October 14, 2008 I said 1000+ damage per attack not per round. There are multiple attacks for some creations per round. I meant a single hit and not quick action multiple hits or total damage to several creatures with an area effect or multi-target spell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Velius Azuma Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Quote: You can craft up to 16 different artifacts during the game if you find the right ingredients and know their recipes. Is the Emerald Chestguard back? ::chants:: One more thing, this time, do you need to know the needed recipe to forge the needly item? Quote: Hey, hey, it's a good thing that we PC users get to wait. By the time the game is released for us, there'll be a guide up showing us how to make the most of rep, etc. For every down, there's and up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 14, 2008 Author Share Posted October 14, 2008 Originally Posted By: Velius Azuma Is the Emerald Chestguard back? ::chants:: No. Quote: One more thing, this time, do you need to know the needed recipe to forge the needly item? No, but I'm not completely sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Xelgion Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Originally Posted By: Randomizer Originally Posted By: Velius Azuma Is the Emerald Chestguard back? ::chants:: No. Emerald Chestguard? And whats with your profile Azuma? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Xaiya Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Is there something better than the Emerald Chestguard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Khoth Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 The new system makes it easier to forge items without knowing the recipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Xelgion Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Originally Posted By: Iffy Is there something better than the Emerald Chestguard? I don't know what a Emerald Chestguard is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 In G2 it providied a powerful bunus to other defenses aside from phyisical attack plus 2 extra AP. I never got it in G3, so I don't know if its as good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Lifecrafterandnoobeditor Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Easier to forge items without knowing the recipe? sounds like its saying, thats ok, no need to find the recipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 You just need the ingredients and figure out which ones go together. When the game comes out, we'll have a topic with the crafting recipes so you can plan ahead on what you want instead of tossing away a perfectly good artifact to make a more powerful one for the same equipment slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Dark Neptune Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 1000+ per turn= Dont even think about it. 1000+ per a single attack = Imagine that Unbound are little kittens while you tune the difficulty settings from Torment to Easy.... Randomizer, who else tested the G5 Creations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Velius Azuma Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Originally Posted By: Randomizer Originally Posted By: Velius Azuma Is the Emerald Chestguard back? ::chants:: No. Aw... Jeff never made did made one artifact that could match up to it. The Savagery maybe, but not that close. @Xelgion I have two accounts. This one I made when my first won't log in when the forums upgraded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 Synergy was running the new class so he has some creations. I was forced to make a pair of rotghroths to finish off the expert dungeon, but they didn't survive. Student of Trinity mentioned making some occasionally. From what I've seen the basic ones are still here, but the cryoa is the only one I've tried of the next group. The problem with running an essence limited guardian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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