Garrulous Glaahk Brock The Archmage Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 I have heard a couple times now that after Jeff finishes Avernum and Geneforge, he is going to return to Exile. Something about updating them to work better nowadays. Is this true? Or is it just speculation? Edit: Someone mentioned Exile 4 and 5 in one thread or another. what about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Jeff is going to update the game engine to the version for Avernum 6 for the first 3 games. No mention if he will fix that plot from Avernum 4, but don't hold your breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 In other words, Jeff has said that he wants to make sure Exile/Avernum remains playable and somewhat modern even as the original games become too old to have players. So he'll keep updating. —Alorael, who wonders if he has similar intentions for Geneforge eventually and, if so, how many games he can make before maintaining them takes up all his time. Maybe this is work that needs to be abandoned eventually, farmed out, or made much easier during the programming of the originals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Xaiya Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 He is focused on doing something new after A6, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 It would be nice to have new Exiles. I don't really like Jeff's new games (anything not Exile or BoE) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Jeff said he wanted to update the Geneforge 1 engine to keep it playable. I suppose he could squeeze it in like Nethergate: Resurrection between new games since the plot and scripts are mostly written and he uses an existing game engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 What's wrong with the Geneforge 1 engine? And is he really planning to upgrade Avernums 1-3 to the Avernum 6 engine? I'd rather he didn't... However, upgrading the Exile trilogy to run on the Intel Macs would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Who flung poo Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 what if he upgraded both Exile & Avernum 1-3 into the Avernum 6 engine? EDIT: as soon as i hit 'post' i realized how retarded i just sounded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Originally Posted By: Who flung poo EDIT: as soon as i hit 'post' i realized how retarded i just sounded Exactly. Anyway, I like the Avernum 1-3 engine. If he wanted to update Avernum 1 to incorporate a few of the features from later engines (I'm particularly thinking of the quest list here), that would be nice, but I don't really want to have it updated to the Avernum 6 engine, whatever that turns out to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Ghaldring Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 I heard that id software is going to update the game engine for Doom... again. It should be exciting, reliving the race through Alpha Labs 1, Alpha Labs 2, Alpha Labs 3, Alpha Labs 4, Alpha Labs 5, Alpha Labs 6, Beta Labs 1, Beta Labs 2, Beta Labs 3, Beta Labs 4, Beta Labs 5, Beta Labs 6, Delta Labs 1, Delta Labs 2, Delta Labs 3, Delta Labs 4, and Delta Labs 5 (plus other exciting and original maps, such as Processing and Storage 1, Processing and Storage 2...) in Crysis like graphics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Who flung poo Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 I don't really see why he would update Avernum 1-3 to the A6 engine though, the main reason I never wanted to play Avernum 4-5 or any of the Geneforge game was because I was so used to Avernum original engine and it just wasn't the same, isn't there anyone else out there sort of like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 I think the Avernum 5 engine is actually different from the Avernum 4 engine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Who flung poo Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 I wouldn't know, I never played either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 ...Then how would you know it "just wasn't the same"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Well, it's not. But it's not so different that it's a problem. If you can get past the graphics, A5's engine is in many ways a lot nicer than A1-3's, and I have no problem with that since the A1-3 graphics are frequently hard to see. —Alorael, who really only misses outdoors. On the other hand, it would probably be easier to upgrade with outdoors rather than remake all those areas as contiguous wilderness, so maybe that won't all have to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Who flung poo Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 I just played A4 for about fifteen minutes and yeah, i don't consider that actually playing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Well, it still counts as trying it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Who flung poo Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 yeah, i should really think about what im talking about and re-read what i said before i hit 'post' instead of making me look very retarded my bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Robsta Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Updating Exile!?! I doubt it. After hearing the work he had to go to just to FIND the source code for BoE a few years ago, I'd imagine updating Exile would turn into rewriting exile. He's already done that - it's called Avernum. I also fear that if he updates the Exile engine he will probably be inclined to “upgrade” the graphics/game system to be more like his newer games, and these who still care about Exile generally don’t dig them as much. Finally I don’t think an update is necessary for exile because the exile system includes BoE. OBoE is the dream of an upgraded Exile that keeps the heart and soul of Exile, while BoE and OBoE include scenario design tools so gamers can share their work and keep releasing fresh new adventures. As for updating A1-3, there might be some sense to have the series use a consistent engine, just to keep series continuity. Seeing as the engine of A5 is the most polished he’s produced so far in the series (and possibly in any of his games) it is sensible for him to use this as the model for his others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Originally Posted By: Robsta Updating Exile!?! I doubt it. After hearing the work he had to go to just to FIND the source code for BoE a few years ago, I'd imagine updating Exile would turn into rewriting exile. He's already done that - it's called Avernum. I also fear that if he updates the Exile engine he will probably be inclined to “upgrade” the graphics/game system to be more like his newer games, and these who still care about Exile generally don’t dig them as much. My impression was that it would simply be recompiled to be able to run on newer computers. Originally Posted By: Robsta Finally I don’t think an update is necessary for exile because the exile system includes BoE. OBoE is the dream of an upgraded Exile that keeps the heart and soul of Exile, while BoE and OBoE include scenario design tools so gamers can share their work and keep releasing fresh new adventures. But OBoE does not include the Exile Trilogy. It's just the engine. Originally Posted By: Robsta As for updating A1-3, there might be some sense to have the series use a consistent engine, just to keep series continuity. Seeing as the engine of A5 is the most polished he’s produced so far in the series (and possibly in any of his games) it is sensible for him to use this as the model for his others. As I've said, I disagree. I don't think a completely consistent engine is necessary – at least they're all similar engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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