Burgeoning Battle Gamma xixao Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 I've been playing around with the hex values the game stores in memory, and created a nice little trainer for Geneforge 2. It runs in the background, and creates a nifty little system tray icon of a Geneforge canister exploding Simply load the trainer, then load your game. At any time during the game, press alt + tab to to switch to the trainer. Choose the hacks you wish to use, then return to the game. Hope you enjoy my little creation - Xixao - Download the latest version! [9/30/04] Also check out my Avernum 3 Trainer ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toenail Returns Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 um, have you tested for bugs and stuff? I don't really want all of my saved games being deleted. If you have, I'll probably try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 There are more than 2 posts in this forum. Posts older than 2 days are just hidden under the default settings. You can show them using the drop-down menu in the top right hand corner. Please don't post in topics more than a week old, though. Nice work, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma xixao Posted September 29, 2004 Author Share Posted September 29, 2004 Yes, it's tested. I was manually modifying the hex values during the evaluation period on the game, loading/saving multiple games to make sure I wasn't corrupting anything. The game saves actually revert to their correct values when you load from a previous savepoint, if you don't activate the trainer. The upgrades you make and the items you buy stay with you, though. After registering the software, I carried the values into a less complex trainer that I have been using for about a week without problems. This one has been in testing now for 3 days, and no problems have arisen yet. It may not sound like a lot, but I spend many hours on it everyday. This will not harm your saves in any way. I'm working on adding an experience hack, along with hacks for your creations. I have found the addresses that control your Shaper's experience (I advanced 26 levels in about 20 minutes), and I'm testing the trainer to see if it's able to handle it. I'll post here any updates I create. Have fun, and let me know what you think - Xixao - :EDIT: By the way... if you're worried about your saves, you can make backups of the 'Data' folder to restore at a later point. It won't be necessary to do so, but it should provide a little assurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma xixao Posted September 29, 2004 Author Share Posted September 29, 2004 Also, since I know how hard it is to trust someone with only 3 posts, I'm leaving a picture of my in-game stats to show that they actually work. I don't want anyone thinking I'm posting harmful applications. I hate noobs who do that, and I certainly don't want to be under suspicion, so here ya go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Sticky Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 Interesting- Have you looked at this ? Though somethings in yours sound much more convenient things like items and such are very nice too. Wow- post 100 How much of that was rather pointless spam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma xixao Posted September 30, 2004 Author Share Posted September 30, 2004 Very nice. Different approach. The only problem is, there are soooooooo many screens to go through to max your character out. With mine, once I add the experience modifier, you will be able to go into the stats screen, and click the 'plus' signs next to each level, and max them all out at one time. I'll browse through this and see if I can incorporate the spell/creation hacks into my trainer. I just find mine MUCH easier and faster to use. Thanks for submitting that though! - Xixao - .::UPDATE::. I have now discovered the values for Experience levels for both the Shaper and all 7 Creations. Unfortunately, the game freaks out if I use any value higher than 65,500 so beyond that will have to be earned. To compensate, I have forced maximum creation skill points to allow you to build your creations up to their full potential. It should make things much easier, though. I'm currently testing it out. I have 7 Ur-Drakons in my party (yes, my trainer makes that possible ) and they all are lvl 66 as soon as they are created. I'm now working on ways to freeze health levels (basically giving a God-mode), unlock spells and creations, and complete quests/clear levels. I will do some further testing on this before I update the release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma xixao Posted September 30, 2004 Author Share Posted September 30, 2004 ....:::::MEGA UPDATE:::::.... ----------------------------- Here you are. My new Mega Update. I've added lots, including Creation modifiers. Do tons in a single click! Download from the link provided in the first post. Here's a screenshot: Tested and working Happy gaming! - Xixao - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toenail Returns Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 I liked the first one but this sounds awesome. Unfortunatly, I can't download it. Whenever I click on the link it says the page cannot be found. Please help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Sticky Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 The process for the old one was rather tedious though it could also modify the stuff done-like canisters and quests. This sounds much better even w/o all that. However for GF1 there also is an item editor, would you be interested in iincluding somthing like that with this trainer? Since you don't have to worry about the nodes limitations it would be much more convenient. I believe that the items in your inventory are also set in the same place as the exp and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toenail Returns Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 As I asked before, I'd really like to know why It won't load for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma xixao Posted October 1, 2004 Author Share Posted October 1, 2004 Sorry about that, Slasher. When I uploaded the update, I neglected to rename the file to match the previous version. The link should work now. As for the item modifier, etc, I'm looking into that and other possibilities. There's a lot of hex to sort through, and a lot of experimenting to find what values control what. I'll continue to work on it, and post the updates here. I have a feeling that your inventory is somehow stored in memory using the same method as your character stats. If that's the case, I'll include a sub-module that will allow you to add any item to your "backpack" with just a click of a button. How nice would it be to start the game with the best gear? Please let me know what you think of the trainer once you have tried it out. Any feedback is appreciated - Xixao - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toenail Returns Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 Thank you so much! I'm trying it right away. Feedback will be posted as soon as I finish trying it out. __________________________________________________ Very impressive. I like the changes you've made, but have you thought of giving the user acess to all of the creations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Sticky Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 First impression. Buggy- not as in it deleted my save files but as in the trainer allowed me one or more less skill points for each skill. For strength it gave me 33 Dexterity 32 Intelligence 30- By the time I got to luck I only got 9 points in it. Kinda silly and I don't see why this would happen but just the impression. This only made me close the improve stats window and open it again where I could improve luck to 18 (ie +9 once more) but still it was funny and I just wanted to point it out. The way for the other one was that you just typed in # sequences which can done rather fast. Once more though this far outstrips the mod of Croikles editor. Does anyone here know who Croikle was? Was/is he a part of this community? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma xixao Posted October 2, 2004 Author Share Posted October 2, 2004 Ya, I know what you're talking about. Strangely enough, though, I earned those skill levels without the help of any trainer or hack, and it still behaved the same way. It's something in the game itself. Please let me know if you experience any other problems though. Thanks, - Xixao - :EDIT: I've looked further into it, and found a way around the problem. It appears it's an error in the game itself, almost as if you're not expected to reach the max in all stats. When I run the fixed mod, however, the game tends to freak out and the stats bounce from max to zero and back again. It's strange. Also, if you exceed the max by manually adding points to it, when you leave the screen and return to it, the points revert back to their max value. This is certainly a strange problem to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toenail Returns Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 I found that when I'm making out my stats if I have a 5 in leadership or something and I max it out and it stops at 13, I exit improving my stats, and start again from 13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma xixao Posted October 2, 2004 Author Share Posted October 2, 2004 Yea, the game is designed to disallow adjustments once you hit "x" number of stat increases. My trainer fools the game by resetting those counters when you re-enter the stat screen. Well, I think I'll let everyone play around with this for a while, and I'll go to work on the Avernum series. I'm sure they're all alike, so you should see similar trainers popping up soon for those games - Xixao - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Commodore Redmark Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 I read half-way through the posts and got lost. >< So this is basically a character editor for Geneforge? In any case I need to play this again, it's been awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma xixao Posted October 3, 2004 Author Share Posted October 3, 2004 Basically, yes, it could be considered a character editor. It gives you unlimited Skill Points to max out your stats, unlimited gold, unlimited Essence to build a massive Creation army, unlimited health, and insane amounts of experience. You have full control over what modifications are made. More features are in the works, including Skill Level modifiers, and item modifiers. Once the bugs are worked out, I'll release a new update. Enjoy - Xixao - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Sticky Posted October 3, 2004 Share Posted October 3, 2004 Another thing you can do with this kind of editor (since you still seem interested) is the quest change thing. I know I enjoyed being able to select any ending w/o doing all the playing was enjoyable. Also one status thing that would be nice to have would be the canister use one. It changes a lot of the game. Also a word of caution. I don't know what kind of rxn you would get to editors for the Exile or Avernum series. If it was able to give say the Orb of Thralni in E1 or 2 (how I know is I transfered a save file from my register version to an unregistered version and could fly to and fro across the Shareware Chasm) then it would not be nessacary to register the game to play. I don't think that this is somthing to promote on this site. But other than that it sounds great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma xixao Posted October 3, 2004 Author Share Posted October 3, 2004 While I'm sure that such a mod would be helpful to others, it is one I'm not willing to do. As a game designer myself, I know how much work is involved in producing a game, and I wouldn't want to rob Spiderweb of their chance to make a sale. If everyone could download the demo but play like a registered copy, the designers wouldn't make a profit for their hard work. In any case, I'm working on new trainers in the following order: - Blades of Avernum - Avernum 3 - Avernum 2 - Avernum It seems a little odd to work backwards like that, but I'm sure the latest games are the ones people are most interested in, so they will be my focus. I'll post the trainers in their proper location in the forums, but I'll provide links here. Keep watching - Xixao - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk tbg10101 Posted October 3, 2004 Share Posted October 3, 2004 Why doesn't this work on mac! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma xixao Posted October 3, 2004 Author Share Posted October 3, 2004 The Mac version and Windows version of the game are two different programs, and the way they operate is not the same. This trainer modifies certain values stored in memory, and is exclusive to Windows 95 and above. Unfortunately, there is no way for me to construct a Mac version for you, as I operate only on Windows. Maybe this will inspire someone to make this a project of theirs? Either way, good luck. I hope you find one that works for you. - Xixao - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk tbg10101 Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 OK thx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk tbg10101 Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Sorry - flood protection double sent this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Sticky Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Clarification on what I'm saying sounds great: Your plans- The warning was against the item editor at all for the E series. I was not suggesting that you make it but not advertize it on SW boards Thnx for being concerned about it all and I hope that your efforts go well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toenail Returns Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 Yeah, good luck Xixao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma xixao Posted October 10, 2004 Author Share Posted October 10, 2004 Sneak preview of Blades of Avernum Trainer Here's a sneak peek of the newest trainer I've been working on. It's still unfinished, as you can tell from the preview, but it is working. There are a few bugs that I may not be able to do anything about, though. The game's intelligence seems to have evolved, and it recognizes that my trainer modified it. It resets all stats once it realizes something has changed, but I have modified the trainer to battle against it and lock the stats in place. I'll keep everyone posted on the progress. - Xixao - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toenail Returns Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 Pretty cool, pretty cool. I can't wait 'till your done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd HoB0 Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 nice work xixao the Avernum trainer looks great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma xixao Posted October 12, 2004 Author Share Posted October 12, 2004 Thanks everyone I'll be leaving on a business trip this week, and I'll be gone until the end of the month. I'll begin working on it again once I get back. I'll keep everyone posted. - Xix - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Croikle Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Quote: Originally written by m's devotee:Does anyone here know who Croikle was? Was/is he a part of this community? I do. I was just passing through and happened to see this, with a stroke of luck. I was active earlier, when I had lots of free time to play RPGs, but unfortunately academics has gotten in the way. It's nice to see that people still remember me from however many years ago as the one who started all this. If I had gotten into GF2 more I might have made an editor (after all, most of the work was already done), but making the first editor kind of spoiled the fun of the story, since I had to look at a lot of the scripts to learn all of the information. Still, it was fun to make, since I had to discover the format of the scripts just from looking at examples and seeing how they worked in the game. This looks like an interesting idea for an editor, though it has the possibility to really screw up your game (and it's only for Windows). There's a lot more you can do when you're editing the memory than when you're just doing what the scenario can do. Neat project! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma xixao Posted October 14, 2004 Author Share Posted October 14, 2004 Quote: This looks like an interesting idea for an editor, though it has the possibility to really screw up your game (and it's only for Windows). There's a lot more you can do when you're editing the memory than when you're just doing what the scenario can do. Neat project! Ya, memory editors such as mine can be very powerful and virtually limitless in their modification capabilities. Rest assured, I was very specific concerning which values were edited, which were frozen, and which were left alone. I wouldn't release an unsafe product. I'll get a little more advanced with the next wave of trainers, once I learn what data the games pump into memory. A little off-topic: If anyone out there plays Gunbound, I created a neat little trainer for the Indo version. I'd be happy to post a copy if anyone is interested. - Xix - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Rabid Pigs Eating A Wolf Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Quote: Originally written by xixao:Sneak preview of Blades of Avernum Trainer Here's a sneak peek of the newest trainer I've been working on. It's still unfinished, as you can tell from the preview, but it is working. There are a few bugs that I may not be able to do anything about, though. The game's intelligence seems to have evolved, and it recognizes that my trainer modified it. It resets all stats once it realizes something has changed, but I have modified the trainer to battle against it and lock the stats in place. I'll keep everyone posted on the progress. - Xixao - Umm. Maybe I'm missing something, but beyond the entire "god mode" part, why? BOA comes with a editor when you register it. If you are going to reply because unregistered people can use it, well unregistered people cannot use any scenario beyond VODT. So, why??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma xixao Posted October 14, 2004 Author Share Posted October 14, 2004 'Cuz it's sexier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Pyro Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 and its faster have you ever "god partyed" your characters it takes forever and it is a pain to continue clicking. (Thats why I t-searched my mine) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Rabid Pigs Eating A Wolf Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Ok, Well um I guess I have no response to that besides: High Level Party Maker By Kelandon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Yeah, my HLPM makes god parties pretty efficiently. Level 250, excessively high stats and overpowered weapons and items.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma xixao Posted October 15, 2004 Author Share Posted October 15, 2004 Well, if it makes things simpler, I could very easily combine the adjustments into a single button by pushing all the actions through at the same time. I figured it would be nicer to have full control over the modifications, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Rabid Pigs Eating A Wolf Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Kelandon's has control over the specific level, anything else, can be done through the editor. Not to bash your idea down, just saying, don't want you to waste extreme amounts of time on something that might get extremely small usage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Custer is the worlds biggest noob Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 I REALLY wish this would work on mac!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toenail Returns Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 I don't have a mac but if I did I would be cheesed off. Furthermore, when do you think the BOA trainer will be completed Xixao? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Um, again, why do you need a BoA trainer? It seems like it would be more useful to make a GF1 trainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Sticky Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Heh perhaps it could lower your stats (Unlike HLPM) Mumbles incoherent comments on the destruction of party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toenail Returns Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 It would just sort of be fun. I realy don't care if it's for BOA. It could be fun and have weird new features like making you able to make cows in your party or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Sticky Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Umm.. I highly doubt that he is going to make cows a playable race with a character editor. Unless you have some other information source and a way to this. Hmmm... many people would settle for playable vahanatai much less.. cows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toenail Returns Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Whatever. I was just trying to state that he probably will have some cool new feature. And oh yeah, cows kick Vanhanti ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 May I take this moment to ask, yet again, WHY THE BLOODY HELL IS VAHNATAI HARD FOR YOU TO SPELL? VAH-NA-TAI. IT'S VERY SIMPLE, YET SOMEHOW IT GOES OVER YOUR HEAD. VAHNATAI. VAHNATAI. V-A-H-N-A-T-A-I. NOT VAHANTI, NOT VAHANATAI, NOT VANHANTI, BUT VAHNATAI. Sorry. It just pains my eyes greatly to see this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Sticky Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 WOW! woah! Well it is a little bit long and it's not a word that I use very much. But I was very aware that I was mispelling at the time as well. And if you can't remember how to pronounce it even the chances of figuring out how to spell it are almost nil. Hrmph maybe I won't be so lazy next time about it but isn't that a little bit of an overreaction? Have you never mispelled it? Edit: In further explanation I always remember it as more complicated than that but..., hmm vahnatai, vahnatai, now I want to sing a triumphant song about being able to spell it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toenail Returns Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 Okay Keladon, calm down. I promise I'll never spell it wrong again so you delicate eyes wont have to suffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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