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Questions as I play through Avadon 3

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Xander77   

Just thought I'd have a single topic for what will probably be a number of questions.

 

1. If I spare people like the necromancer at Vantok's Reach, the chief at 4-circles etc, which of them will I see again for greater profit, and which are just gone? (Obviously, I don't mind spoilers)

2. Does the game account for raising a skill to level 9+ (8 + bonus points)?

3. Um... were Titans and Wretches ever referred to as "Warborn" in previous entries in the series.

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1. No, they and their loot never reappear. You just avoid combat.

 

2. You get 4 levels instead of 1 effect at 7 and above for skills. This happens for 9+.

 

3. No.

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Xander77   
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1. Is there a point to sparing Shezass (the green refuge drake)?

 

2. Is there a list of skill effects? Knowing the Spiderweb series, I'm moderately convinced there must be skills that don't really do anything, but confirmation would be nice.

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Xander77   

I don't know, it seemed as though the reward was the same regardless.

 

If I didn't stick by Redbeard (not my keeper! Make the pact great again!) would I have the ability to put on scarabs in Avadon?

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He also gives quests.  I remember there being a material reason not to kill him immediately; I don't remember if it was because of the person who gave the quests, or because he gives some quest later in the game.

 

Re scarabs: yes, that is unchanged.

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Xander77   

Really? Drake trouble part whatever was the last quest before we left Green Refuge, and camps generally don't give you quests after you've moved on.

1. Will I ever get a chance to steal Zhetron's hoard?

2. Is there any benefit to actually allying with one of the Warborn tribes in Goldcraig? Or would massacring them all get me more xp and loot?

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Look up "Shaman Liese" here:

 

http://spiderwebforums.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/22363-avadon-3-item-location-and-quest-list-massive-spoilers/

 

As you can see there are multiple parts to the quest.  If you kill Shezass at the beginning, you'll miss out on the later parts of the quest.

 

(Also, to correct what I said earlier, he doesn't actually give quests himself, but one of the quests for Liese requires completing a task for Shezass.)

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Xander77   

"Again - 300c (if alive), Runesoled Shoes (5% armor, +10% to blessings/curses you cause), 400 XP at level 13 (alive), at level 12 (killed) "

I'm don't think you can provoke Shezass before part 3, so the only difference is 300 gold and... some xp, if I'm reading this correctly? Not sure what the difference between 400 xp at level 13 and level 12 actually means.

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Xander77   

Just to be sure - hard mode friendly fire only applies to the party, right? Enemies seem content to fire off area-effect spells willy-nilly.

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Xander77   

I'm belaboring the point a bit, but is that all there is to the Goldcraig Warborn factions? Ally with 1 and kill 2, or kill all 3? I was expecting... shenanigans of some sort. Turning them against each other or something. That was just hella boring.

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All quests have a party level where you get that amount of experience. If you can do the quest at a lower level then you get more and at a higher level you will get less.

 

The Goldcrag Warborn alliance with a faction means less fighting later on in the Warborn Arena. However it also means less loot in Goldcrag and the Arena. :)

 

It also changes the ending text slightly.

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Xander77   

Before I waste time trying:

1. I can't find the passphrase for the Spiral anywhere, can I?

2. It was impossible to catch up to / kill the titan high general at the Arena when I first met him, right?

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1. No, you have to fight.

 

2. Scripted for him to escape. I don't know if you can do enough damage even on casual level.

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Xander77   

My team currently averages level 25, and I have no idea how to kill the dragon without dropping the difficulty to Casual. I managed to slay his constructs, then run off upstairs. Should be easy now, right? Just lure him out for a 1:1 outside his frozen room? Well, he keeps two-shotting my squishy NPCs (what the hell is Slow even supposed to do if it isn't stopping him from acting twice?) and basically ignoring warriors hammering on his thick hide. I tried several different parties, and never managed to take off more than half his health.

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Some boss monsters get automatic extra scripted attacks on harder difficulties even when stunned.

 

One thing is out wait his immunities to some damage types that are scripted to occur when the dragon reaches certain damage levels. It isn't easy and usually requires raising dead characters in combat.

 

I like to have a sorcerer in the party since with focus mastery you get recharged and take less damage by magical attacks. Then keep a blademaster with high armor and health next to the dragon to take most attacks. Everything else hugs the walls to survive. Summon monsters also help as a distraction.

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Xander77   

Am I missing something about the Temple of Velusa, or do you HAVE to fight if you want the invitation?

 

PS - Velusa is way easier than the dragon, even on Hard.

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You have to fight the guards and leader, but not the god to reach the invitation. The invitation is upstairs past several groups.

 

The god is a separate quest. :)

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Xander77   

I faced down Velusa (to the point where he asked to back off) and apparently this isn't enough for the healer lady at fort forsight? She claimed I didn't need to kill him.

 

Is there a point of diminishing returns for stat investment? Is a warrior with 25 / 25 in STR and DEX at a major disadvantage compared to someone with 38 in either of those? Should I start investing in END (for example) after hitting 30 in the class relevant stat?

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It depends upon difficulty level and playing style. Higher DEX and END means lower chance of being hit by a damage type of 2.5% per point which makes more of a difference on normal difficulty. By the end almost everything will hit you except for a few minor fights.

 

If you are dying in a single round then extra END might help you just survive.

 

If you like missile attacks, then extra DEX helps with damage.

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Lilith   

The short answer, though, is that there aren't really diminishing returns for investing heavily in one stat, and especially on higher difficulty settings you probably want to pick a single primary attacking stat and pump it as high as possible while investing in enough Endurance to stay alive. Allocating points in a 3:1 or even 4:1 ratio of your primary stat to Endurance is usually pretty good.

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Xander77   

Final question - did Jeff ever hint what he was trying to say with Avadon 3? Whatever it is, it seems hopelessly muddled.

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Jeff likes vague answers to some questions. Open ended leaves it up to the player to decide.

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