Curious Artila Niko Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Could there be Avernum 7? I like to play First person action Rpg's like, morrowind or Arx Fatalis, and something or like that. And I whould like also that there whould be a First person action Rpg. That whould be cool because it whould be very large by its size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Mosquito---Slayer Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 As far as I know there has been no mention of A7 from jeff's side, also considering how small a company spiderweb is any drastic changes in engine are pretty much ruled out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Actaeon Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 It sounds like Avadon will see a couple more entries, the first Avernum trilogy will be remade, and potentially some of Geneforge will also get retouched. Beyond that, I cannot say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk adc. Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Unfortunately, there might be no Avernum 7... Jeff will prioritize the Avadon series more... -------------- -A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Avadon to 6 games (possibly) and remake of Avernum 2-3 and Géneforges remakes will keep him busy next ~10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Originally Posted By: Earth Empires Avadon to 6 games (possibly). Jeff has been pretty clear that Avadon is only going to be a trilogy. (Of course it could be a trilogy with more than three installments, or it could be a trilogy like Exile (Jeff pretty much said "no" to making Exile/Avernum 4 for *years* before giving in and doing it), but I think it's safe to say Avadon 3 will be where Jeff stops. At least for the foreseeable future.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 It took Jeff eight years to get from Exile 3 to Avernum 4. Even if there are more Avernum installments, and the ending makes that tough, it'll take a while. Avadon's supposed to stick to three games, but I'd be less surprised if Jeff found he had more ideas and a successful series on his hands and kept going. —Alorael, who would be most surprised by a first-person action RPG. It's far outside Jeff's wheelhouse, he'd need to get entirely new graphics that would have to stand up to slightly higher realism, and he'd risk alienating his turn-based, isometric fans. That's too many risks for someone as conservative about these things as Jeff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Jeff mentioned that he had an idea for an Avernum prequel game. That is more likely than a sequel especially after he took such delight in killing off the main NPCs. As to a FPS, that would involve so much new code that it is extremely unlikely. Jeff has said that he isn't that good at coding so he reuses as much as he can from his previous games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Goldengirl Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 The problem with having made so many games that now need touch up is that Jeff is looking at a schedule of revisions that will take him a daunting amount of time. Moreover, by the time he finished the next two Avernums and the first three Geneforges, the current new generation of games will need an update. I'm glad he's still putting an emphasis on making new games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Originally Posted By: Goldenking The problem with having made so many games that now need touch up is that Jeff is looking at a schedule of revisions that will take him a daunting amount of time. Moreover, by the time he finished the next two Avernums and the first three Geneforges, the current new generation of games will need an update. I'm glad he's still putting an emphasis on making new games. It may be that at some point it'll make financial sense to pay someone else to do remakes, the way it already makes sense to pay for Android ports. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Some remakes may go faster once their game engines are balanced so only new content is needed. The question is how many old games are going to be ported to iPad and tablets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Niko Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 But couldnt there be another avernum game coming? Avernum 1-3 were good but I didnt like the graphics. I like avernum 4 the most but the rest 5 and 6 I dont like. What I should like to see in Avernum 7 is that it whould have all its land masses and more freedom way tp play. Like more options to do and more skills. Skills like, alchemy. Whould Avernum online be good from you others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 About half of Avernum doesn't really exist any more as of the end of Avernum 6, so that'd make a sequel kind of difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Mosquito---Slayer Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Originally Posted By: Niko Avernum 1-3 were good but I didnt like the graphics. They are all being remade with much better graphics. A1 is already out, A2 and A3 will be out someday, maybe you should try them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Erebus the Black Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 From what I've gathered from the conversations in these forums is that at the end of A6, the kingdom is pretty much destroyed, with half of it belonging to the Slith, the other half belonging to the dragon and the rest to the Vahnati. There is no Avernum for Jeff to make a game in. By the time the Empire succeed in rebuilding the portal it would probably already belong to Melanchion and as he is not very hostile and the Empire has become more docile and respectful of other races, they will probably won't try to rebuild Avernum which is and was (coupled with the Vahnati) their greatest enemy. The only way I can see a sequel is if it will be Avernum 7 : Reconquest of the Abyss. 400 years in the future an emperor rises which reflects the old thoughts and attitudes of the old emperors and one of the descendants of Melanchion has ticked him off and so he sends an army to take over the Abyss once more and tap into its unfathomable riches. Now just incorporate a band of adventurers like was done in A5 and you have your backstory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Mosquito---Slayer Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I will have to say that just because parts of Avernum are now ruled by someone else doesn't mean that that area has somehow disappeared It can still very much be used in the story, Melanchion and Vahnahties are in any case friendly enough, and large swathes of hostile Slith territory can be a pretty fun addition. The only limitation i see for A7 is whether Jeff wants to make it, and he probably doesn't, Drawing the tower of magi sixth time got to be enough to make you nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Originally Posted By: Erasmus one of the descendants of Melanchion It may well still be Melanchion himself. Dragons do live hundreds of years, after all, and he is still very young in A6. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Geneforge 6 is a sure thing. What with there being an entire different continent that is not played on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Geneforge 6 is not certain at all. Remember that the continent vanished after G5. We can only assume an important bureaucratic library was burned in the fighting and thus no one recalls that it was there. —Alorael, who knows how important bureaucracy is to world-spanning empires. Once the Shapers lost track of their extra continent it's certain that everyone living there would emigrate back to Terrestia so they could know where they were again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Actaeon Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Originally Posted By: Slenderman. Geneforge 6 is a sure thing. ... Nobody tells me these things. Until recently, my understanding was that Geneforge remakes and sequels were just a pipe dream. Next thing you know, Jeff will be releasing Blades of Geneforge for Android only, and everyone will be carrying as if things were normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody The Reverend Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I thought Geneforge 5 was meant to be the finale of the series? I haven't played it yet (G4 and G5 are the last two Spiderweb Games I still need to play), so I may be mistaken. But the description of it on the Spiderweb website ("Spiderweb Software brings you Geneforge 5: Overthrow, the final chapter in their fantasy epic") certainly seems to imply that ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Triumph Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 You are correct, The Rev. Trenton (current PDN Slendermen) is totally making up out of nothing the idea that there will be a Geneforge 6. There is no evidence whatsoever from Jeff that there will ever be such a game. G5 is indeed the last game of the series, so far as we have any reason to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Prince of Kitties Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I'll admit I have a general dislike for realtime, first-person games. I prefer having the time to think about my next move. That said, I don't see why a first-person game has to have snazzy modern graphics. Graphics along the lines of e.g. Hexen could be effective enough to do the job. But really I don't think that would suit Spiderweb very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Actaeon Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Oh, that was TRENTON? I should have paid closer attention. Remakes sound better to me, anyway. But E2/A2 first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Can't hurt to dream, can it? Geneforge was arguably the best series of Spidweb. In my opinion. It was sad to see it end. Alwan is best pony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Triumph Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Hmm, dreaming is fine, but asserting categorically that something is "a sure thing" when in fact it is merely one's dream could be misleading / confusing to others, as it was in this case. Clarity and accuracy FTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Actaeon Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Bill is the best pony, with Bela in second place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Hey, you spelled Homage and Rainbow Dash wrong, Actaeon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk adc. Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Originally Posted By: Niko What I should like to see in Avernum 7 is that it whould have all its land masses and more freedom way tp play. Like more options to do and more skills. Skills like, alchemy. Whould Avernum online be good from you others? You mean like Avernum 3? The way my dad bought Avernum 3 from all others because you can travel around freely, if you don't want to do your missions yet. There is also a choice where you can travel around either Avernum itself or the surface... But what I've really wanted is more freedom.... Something like, you can start out as a mage and train at the tower of magi, or as an alchemist and those... ------------ -A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Niko Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 Which one of Avernum is the best from you? I think avernum 4 story is greatest. I dont like much from the combat battle disciples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Actaeon Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 I think A2 and A:EftP did the best in our most recent poll. Avernum 4 is generally looked down upon by the community, but is clearly still an enjoyable experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk adc. Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Originally Posted By: Slenderman. Geneforge 6 is a sure thing. What with there being an entire different continent that is not played on. You say that. But think of the possibilities how Shaping arts had reach other continents; with that skill ending at Terrestria ----- The last story pieces of Geneforge 5 has and will remain as a legend. The story breaks off within your will. Help the Shapers or destroy them. Jeff had made 5 factions to join. If that was made, it already meant the story is ending... ----- -A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 A prequel on Sucia in the time of Danette would be really cool. There is no Rebellion yet, but there may well be rogues and rebellions. The question of whether Danette herself should be thought of as a rogue would be interesting. You could start as a Shaper apprentice, as usual, but rise to make decisive contributions, either to finishing the Geneforge, or preventing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Niko Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 Avernum 4 had large landscape, good story, good combat system, Easy skill system, a bit better graphics, good leveling system, and it added more good things to its lore. Only I whould have liked more larger landscape, like the empire lands, vanhatai lands, main lands and the upper avernum. And maby even had new created undiscovered lands. Anyone played Eschalon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Originally Posted By: Niko Anyone played Eschalon? many SWers and their opinions have been posted to here (use advanced search and no time limitations). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Advanced search? Yuck. UBB's search features blows chunks, I personally recommend just using google with site:spiderwebforums.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Niko Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 Which are the highest levels what you have gotten? My chracters are something like 25 or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 mine is at lvl 43 in AEFTP. and yes current search is bad but at least I'm used to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 59 warrior in Geneforge 5. I WAS playing a singleton soldier in Avernum 4, racking up almost like, 40 levels in the first quarter of the game, but I saved over it accidentally. :| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Niko Posted October 9, 2012 Author Share Posted October 9, 2012 Question. How can you use in avernum 4 the unlock spells, because for me it never worked? Lightning spray is my favourite spell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Originally Posted By: Niko How can you use in avernum 4 the unlock spells, because for me it never worked? Just stand with your mage right near the door and cast it. Also, the effect of the spell is improved by the caster's Tool Use, so both Mage Spells and Tool Use skill should be high to use it effectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Niko Posted October 9, 2012 Author Share Posted October 9, 2012 Oh, I never thought of that, anyway theres 5 months before last I played A4, because it got too hard. What new spell I whould like in Avrnuem whould be icing or enchantment spells. IMO, the best character party whould be, 1 soldier, 1 rebel, 1 priest and 1 sorcerer! Rebels have tool use, soldier all the weapon skills, priest healing and sorcerer does the most harming damage. What whould be your kind of best party? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Custom characters can usually have their points allocated better than the premades. The berserker's not bad. —Alorael, who usually goes with a berserker-like fighter, a polearm user, and two characters who are both mages and priests, but with each one leaning more one way or the other. Tool Use gets dumped on someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Niko Posted October 9, 2012 Author Share Posted October 9, 2012 Thats good, those settings work. Though then you cant get more levels for one example if one whould be a sorcerer and one priest. Hedge wizard can get them both, but cant get all the highest levels of one magic style. Tool use is good for dumbed for one. Do you use the special character abilities in the beginning of creating characters? Like making the game easer for getting less xp or making it harder for getting more xp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Originally Posted By: Niko Hedge wizard can get them both, but cant get all the highest levels of one magic style. Actually, she should be able to eventually; it's certainly possible to have Mage or Priest skills up to 17 (or is it 18?) and have the other one at around 10 if you're careful with your skill points. I tend not to give my spellcasters any weapon skills at all though, which frees up a fair amount of skill points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Mosquito---Slayer Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Originally Posted By: Nikki. up to 17 (or is it 18?) 17 for the second triology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 In AEFTP I'll get both my casters so high in mage spells and priest spells that mage can cast resurrection and priest can cast fireblast (divine fire isn't as good as fireblast) before going to kill emperor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Xaiya Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Some weapons skills can be nice for magic casters in A5 and 6 for the disciplines. For A4 (A5? Dunno if it has unlock spell) you may want to have your dedicated mage have tool use but just remembering to dump wisdom crystals on him to account for it. As for best setup, I like to have two warriors to absorb damage (sword human and pole slith) and deal it back then have the fragile magic casters healing and doing damage themselves. In the early avernum games I used to have an archer nephil who had the tool use, but I eventually abandoned doing so in the later Avernums due to bows being so weak and separated my wizard into a mage and a priest. If this post sounds awful, it's because I just dealt with classes, including a midterm, on four hours of sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Erebus the Black Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 In A5, unlike any game previously, the unlock spell is used to remove the arcane part of the lock while tool use is used to actually force open the lock; they are completely unconnected. Therefore giving your mage the tool use job will probably make him lag behind in arcane levels (or so to speak). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Unlock won't open all the doors. What level of unlock do you have? Only 1? Because that might me it. EDIT: Was I seriously taking that long to post, or was the guy with the problem like, a page before? o.o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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