Seasoned Roamer Abdulla AlBinali Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Hey, I'm having a slight issue with the Magic barriers. I cannot learn the skill because my Mage spells are all on 0. I'm wondering whether its worth, focusing one of my characters, into increasing its Mage spells. Though, that would raise the question as to what is the minimum level of Mage spell is needed to order to be able to acquire the skill for Magic barriers. Bearing in mind that all my characters are level 22 playing on hard. Assuming its no longer worth it to increase Mage spells, will I be able to buy the item that is able to remove the barrier? if so, where? Lastly, I don't suppose there is a cheat code that would allow me to retrain my character. I wasted a several points on things I never used but though are quite cool early on in the game. Any help will be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 To retrain your characters use shift and d to bring up a box, then type in editor. You have to keep track of the points that you are shifting since it doesn't do that for you. Dispel Barrier needs a level 11 in mage spells to learn. It's useful since you gain access to more areas for combat and loot. Third level magical barriers often have better items. You can remove all important magical barriers using piercing crystals that can be bought or found. Some places that really need them are the Mertis Spiral Pit to get a Brooch for Erika, Crypt of Drath to get a part of Demonslayer, Gremlin's Gold to fulfill a quest, to get the level 3 spell book for Minor Heal in the Nephilim Fortress, the Blessed Athame in Tower of Magi to do the Destroy Grah-Hoth quest, .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Abdulla AlBinali Posted April 19, 2012 Author Share Posted April 19, 2012 I just tried the cheat and was quite annoyed to realise that I was able to add an unlimited amount of points on pretty much everything. I was it would be more like Avadon where you merely got to rearrange the points previously allocated. As it'll need 11 mage spells, that means one of my characters would need to gain 11 levels and they just got to level 23 (I'm yet to allocate their points to anything). So would you recommend waiting till level 33 to get the 11 mage spells or simply rely or piercing crystals? Should I wait till level 33, will there be enough quests/missions to level to that high without needing to use piercing crystals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 You'd actually have to wait until level 45, since after level 30 you only get skill points every 5 levels. You're not going to get to level 45 in a normal game without a lot of grinding. I think at this point you've committed to the character builds you've got, and you'll just have to get by with piercing crystals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 The "editor" cheat DOES allow you to take points away, as well as to give them. So you can take away 11 points elsewhere and add them where you need them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Abdulla AlBinali Posted April 19, 2012 Author Share Posted April 19, 2012 I appreciate the responses received, I'll do what House of S suggested and move on with the game. Look forward to completing the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt BMA Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Why is there a Character Editor option in the main menu at all, if its only function is to switch the in-game editor on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Abdulla AlBinali Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 I got another issue now, it being, with some magic barriers, I get told that I need a higher level magic in order to dispel them. Does this mean that I need to increase my mage spells or increase the magic barrier spell? if its the latter, how do I increase the magic barrier spell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Kinsume Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 There are 3 levels of Dispel Barrier that are found in the game via quests I believe. If it says you need a higher one then odds are you either missed the next level or need to wait until you progress deeper into the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 You can train for 2 levels and learn the third from a spell book hidden in Khoth's Lair. Level 1 dispel barrier is the weakest form, level 2 is equivalent to a piercing crystal, and level 3 removes the strongest barriers where the best loot is supposed to be protected but not always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Abdulla AlBinali Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 Does this mean I'll need Arcane Lore? Where could I find level 2? And any idea whether or not I could buy it from a shop somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Kreador Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 You can buy level 2 of dispel barrier the same place you buy level 1, the mage in Fort Dranlon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 No, you can't. Mairwen only teaches level 1. You can buy level 2 in Fort Emerald. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Kreador Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Originally Posted By: HOUSE of S No, you can't. Mairwen only teaches level 1. You can buy level 2 in Fort Emerald. Is that a change, because I'm pretty certain that I learned both teachable levels from Mairwen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk ShieTar Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I just today and learned Level 1 and 2 from Mairwen. So at least in the Windows version she does teach level 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Kreador Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Originally Posted By: ShieTar I just today and learned Level 1 and 2 from Mairwen. So at least in the Windows version she does teach level 2. Maybe she just didn't want to teach Slarty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Um... excuse me. I combined multiple previous SW games in my head. Whoops. You're all right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Fatman Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 How do you get Mairwen to teach me dispel barrier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 You have to finish the quest she offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Fatman Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Mairwen was only able to teach me one level dispel barrier, and I got one off the aranea tome west of Fort Remote. Where can I get the last level for this spell? Is the Lair of Khoth the only solution? Where is his lair located? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Khoth's Lair is the only place. It's in the northwest corner of Avernum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Pleiades Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Originally Posted By: Randomizer Khoth's Lair is the only place. It's in the northwest corner of Avernum. Should I then be able to dispel the barrier in the middle of the Rune circle in Khoth's lair? Cos I can't :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 There are a few special magical barriers that can't be dispelled at level 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 That barrier is irrelevant. Look for secret switches in the same room as it: there's a series of them that eventually lead to the Dispel Barrier book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Pleiades Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Do we ever find out what that barrier was for (i.e in Avernum II)? Doesn't Khoth have a huge hoard somewhere (I was thinking it must be reached via the portal that barrier protected)? What kind of dragon doesn't have a huge hoard!? Maybe I missed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Originally Posted By: Pleiades Do we ever find out what that barrier was for (i.e in Avernum II)? Doesn't Khoth have a huge hoard somewhere (I was thinking it must be reached via the portal that barrier protected)? What kind of dragon doesn't have a huge hoard!? Maybe I missed it no we don't and Khoth's treasures are hidden from our mortal eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Khoth's treasures are his books and scrolls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Vengenance Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Try tinkering the scripts then find the dispel barrier cystal Warning: Trying tinkering the scripts without skills might let your game crash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Originally Posted By: Randomizer Khoth's treasures are his books and scrolls. and most of those we can't access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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