Kyshakk Koan Firecage Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Would it be worthwhile to play the Exile series? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Niemand Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 There's not really a meaningful way for someone else to answer that for you. Depending on your preferences you might have a huge amount of fun or you might find it totally redundant. Some concerns to take into account: Have you already played the original Avernum trilogy? If so, you might not perceive much gain from playing the Exile games. Do you have a strong opinion about the graphics, or details of the gameplay like the spell system? Most people either love or hate the Exile graphics, for example, (I'll admit to belonging to the latter camp), so this could influence your decision a lot, given the large amount of overlap between E1-3 and A1-3. Ultimately you should probably just try it out and decide whether you like it. It shouldn't take too long to form an opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Micawber Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Simple Answer: yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Firecage Posted May 26, 2011 Author Share Posted May 26, 2011 Graphics do not bother me much. Heck, I play certain games still with ACSII graphics(you know what game that is kiddies). I mainly focus on gameplay, plot, background stories, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Micawber Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 ... so you will find the Exile Trilogy CD-ROM a great investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 ...Unless you've played Avernum, in which case the gameplay is a bit different and the world and plot are identical. So download the demos, figure out which engine you like more, and enjoy otherwise nearly identical games! —Alorael, who does not know which ASCII game that is. Angband or its teeming offspring? Nethack? ADOM? Good ol' Rogue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Firecage Posted May 26, 2011 Author Share Posted May 26, 2011 Dwarf Fortress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 ASCII silly question ... get a silly ANSI Aloreal - no truer words have been spoken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Jean-Philippe Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 In all Exile games, the demo part is pretty long. Just try it, if you get hooked, register, if not just quit. Either way, I am sure it will happen before the end of the demo. When I play Exile now, what really bother me is not the graphics but the small size of the game window, 9*9 square is really tiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Erebus the Black Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Just don't take pacifist as a trait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Yeah pacifist sucks. You level up like ten times faster then your other characters, BUT you can't cast damaging spells or attack. I think no one could win the game with a singleton fighter with pacifist without cheating... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Um, no, nowhere near ten times faster. You level up slightly faster than a non-pacifist who also never kills things. However, in Exile, the attacking PC gets the bulk of the experience for a kill, so you actually tend to level up like ten times slower than your other characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 I stand corrected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Firecage Posted May 28, 2011 Author Share Posted May 28, 2011 Hopefully Jeff will make the rewrite of Avernum 1 as complex as Exile 1 was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 I think you are on the wrong forum. Avernum rewrite topic is on the front forum page, Post your thoughts on it there in more detail...I want to hear... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Quote: I think you are on the wrong forum. Avernum rewrite topic is on the front forum page, Post your thoughts on it there in more detail...I want to hear... Check out the notice posted here about the rearrangement of the forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 OK I think I get it. You posted that already, besides he posted something about avernum in exile so its different... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Arch-Mage Solberg Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 My main party I usually used during the game consisted of 2 fighters, 2 mages, 1 priest and 1 lockpicker/trap disarmer/alchemist. My LP/TD/A was a pacifist. He did not fight which hurt his experience on that part, but he picked locks and disarmed traps for his experience. The levels between that guy and the other five were ridiculous. The other five would be around 25 and the other guy would be around 17. All I'm saying is that the pacifist trait isn't entirely bad. Although, I would have to say that it does hurt the character more than it helps. Post #529 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Originally Posted By: loyal servile of sasuke uchiha I think no one could win the game with a singleton fighter with pacifist without cheating... I don't think it could be done even with 6 pacifists. Originally Posted By: Arch-Mage Solberg My main party I usually used during the game consisted of 2 fighters, 2 mages, 1 priest and 1 lockpicker/trap disarmer/alchemist. My LP/TD/A was a pacifist. He did not fight which hurt his experience on that part, but he picked locks and disarmed traps for his experience. Pacifists are also good as meatshields, and for buffing your other PCs. In combat, doesn't poison give the same amount of experience to your party when it kills a monster? That might be useful for keeping the experience gap a bit smaller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I thought that poison, or in fact anything that's not damaging from you directly, doesn't give you exp. Like summonings or poison or disease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 I know you don't get experience if you kill a summoned monster or (I think) an NPC kills a monster. But I swear I read something somewhere about a non-summoned monster dying from poison giving all your PCs the full amount of experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 It's been a long time, but I'm pretty sure that poison kills split XP evenly among all party members. Direct damage kills give something like 50-80% to the killer and the rest is split among other PCs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Micawber Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Considering how relatively weak poison was in Exile compared to the recent games, I think you'd take a very long time to beat Exile 2 if you were trying to kill all enemies with poison. Whatever you do, pacifists are going to level more slowly than other characters which means they will have inadequate health, so poor meatshields. They also aren't allowed to cast haste or bless, so not much good at buffing either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Dude, I meant when your summonings kill the enemy. I don't think you get exp. for that. At least you didn't in Avernum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Originally Posted By: loyal servile of sasuke uchiha I thought that poison, or in fact anything that's not damaging from you directly, doesn't give you exp. Like summonings or poison or disease Originally Posted By: loyal servile of sasuke uchiha Dude, I meant when your summonings kill the enemy. Maybe that was what you meant, but you said poison. Twice, actually. So please don't get upset -- we're just responding to what you wrote. Also, lots of game mechanics are different in Avernum, including lots of things about how experience is handled, so the way something works in Avernum is not necessarily a good guide to how it works in Exile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 I know I said poison twice, I could say it three times if wanted to And two, I'm not upset. The only time I'm ever upset is when I'm makin' a PBJ and I spill meh milk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Aaaggh!! Not the dreaded PBJ!! And wasn't it Aesop who taught us that there is no use in crying over spilled milk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 I don't know. And I don't care. All I know is that when the milk spills...all hell breaks out in my mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Micawber Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 You wait until you're older and you spill a latte... it's way worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Unless its a cold coffee mind you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Nah, still worse than spilt milk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I don't worry about spilled milk. I have a cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I have eight cats. A tabby, a black one with some cute white fur patch on his chest, an all black one, a grey one with white paws and long ear hair, three kittens that look exactly the same(white with a huge black spot on there head-from the all black cat as mother) and another tabby kitten. They are all so cute! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Erebus the Black Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 OOoohhhhh... I foresee a cat-dog flamewar pending Someone needs to dispense a preemptive strike to disperse or dissuade both camps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 OH MY GAWD MY FAVORITE COLOUR IS RED! Its the color of gore and blood! *wink wink* (changed topic erasmus) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Actually, I am a dog person. Therefore the cat has chosen me as his favorite person. It should be known that cats are evangelists; they are out to convert people to be cat people. For example, you can put a cat in a room full of people. It will find the person who least likes cats, and that will be that cat's favorite person. Dogs are man's best friend. Cats will be friends with people, but only on their own terms. One does not own a cat. More often than not, they own their people. Actually the cat I have isn't too bad. He comes when I call him; about half the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Wow. The only cat cliche you left out there is a love of milk. Dikiyoba's cats don't actually like milk. They'd rather drink toilet water. There's no accounting for taste, Dikiyoba supposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 One other redeeming attribute of my cat. He is a real hare hunter. He has brought home many trophies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Well the topic change failed. All well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Originally Posted By: Harehunter Actually, I am a dog person. Therefore the cat has chosen me as his favorite person. It should be known that cats are evangelists; they are out to convert people to be cat people. For example, you can put a cat in a room full of people. It will find the person who least likes cats, and that will be that cat's favorite person. Dogs are man's best friend. Cats will be friends with people, but only on their own terms. One does not own a cat. More often than not, they own their people. Actually the cat I have isn't too bad. He comes when I call him; about half the time. Yeah? Well you know who else liked dogs? HITLER, that's who. Also he was a vegetarian. And supported animal rights. I guess there is something to be said for the whole "stopped clock" thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora Jeff_the_Jew Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Never tried 1 or 2, but I just started replaying E3 and am digging it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 skip one, try two. 1 only has what? 40 spells? and none of them are sommuning. BUT, on a brighter side of exile 1, the demo is awsomly huge, because you can go ANYWHERE from fort exile, to the long river and lake on the west side, you can go from the tippity top near motraxes cave all the way down to the tower of magi, then all through the honeycombs, and as far left as almaria! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Arch-Mage Solberg Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Originally Posted By: Trenton Uchiha, rebel servile. skip one, try two. 1 only has what? 40 spells? and none of them are sommuning. BUT, on a brighter side of exile 1, the demo is awsomly huge, because you can go ANYWHERE from fort exile, to the long river and lake on the west side, you can go from the tippity top near motraxes cave all the way down to the tower of magi, then all through the honeycombs, and as far left as almaria! I agree with the vastness of Exile 1's demo. You can easily get up to 20 hours of playtime before you've done absolutely everything you are able. Post #544 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Quote: eah? Well you know who else liked dogs? HITLER, that's who. Also he was a vegetarian. And supported animal rights. I guess there is something to be said for the whole "stopped clock" thing. George S. Patton was another dog person, and we all know what he did to Hitler's army. Actually, I'm more of a "Turner and Hootch" guy. But as for the cat, have you ever noticed the effect they seem to have on gravity? They lighten themselves to leap up onto the fence, but let one get in your lap and you cannot move! Just try to get up out of that chair when that cat has curled up on your lap. I guess that is where the word "cat-atonic" comes from. BTW, back on topic, while Exile 1 is a very good game, and it develops the early history of Exile, Exile 2 and Exile 3 are larger and their story line gets increasingly complex. Personally, I enjoyed all three of them, as I had actually started with Exile 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 The first spiderweb software game I played was exile 2. Gather around children for a story. Once apon a time in a magical land called paw paw, Michigan, my computer broke down, and the neighbor that lives under our apartment gave us hers because she was moving. The computer had NO internet, but a game place thing, with a bunch of games. And in adventure, I saw the game EXILE:2 so I clicked on it. When our real computer got fixed I looked all online for the game place, but couldent find it. So I typed in Exile 2, and there it was, spiderweb software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Micawber Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Originally Posted By: Trenton Uchiha, rebel servile. Gather around children for a story. If you're going to use that line at age 12, imagine how ancient I feel being nearly three times as old But I'm quite impressed that at your tender age you found Exile II and were sufficiently hooked to follow up on Spiderweb. It just shows that basic graphics and sound effects need not be an obstacle to enjoyment even in these high definition, 3D times. E2 was of course my first Spiderweb game as well... But my first actual computer game was Rainbow Islands (on the Amiga). Happy memories. Oh well, it's my bedtime now. Us older folk need our sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Rainbow Islands as in the Bubble Bobble sequel? How remarkably not-old! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Micawber Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Well, not compared to some However I recently tried to explain to some ppl at work about manual typewriters and they thought I was some old fossil. It's all relative, innit. Edit: I just remembered what (the character of) my avator said "Life begins at 140." Let's hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 What preteen wouldn't love Role Playing Games with magic and swords and dungeons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Originally Posted By: Trenton Uchiha, rebel servile. What preteen wouldn't love Role Playing Games with magic and swords and dungeons? Socially well-adjusted ones? I was into chess at that age. Okay, maybe still flirting the edge of socially acceptable, but at least I didn't hit D&D until college! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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