souls to take

[ToeJm686]

so what are some good monsters to use capture soul on? i was usually too lazy to figure out some good ones.

[Spring]

Empire Devrish, Vahnati Warrior and Demon are always good for me. I also have caught a Mage, Apprentice Mage, Empire Archer, Champion, Blademaster and also a couple of Imps. I tried to get a Doomguard, but it won't work.

[Seletine]

For Exile 3, I captured the souls of an Order Mage and a Slith Archmage. A Quickghast may be good to have in some situations; a Crystal Soul may also be useful. It's a bad idea to capture a Doomguard, as any copies of the monster you summon will attack you.

 

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[Thralni]

Remember one very important thing though: If you're skill is not high enough, you're just wasting you SP. I had this many times. Evey time I wanted to catch a demon, it resisted.

 

I caught an eyebeast, and tried to catch a soldier in Delis, but he resisted. I also caught a shambler, and something else, which I can't remember.

 

Is it possible to have more than four creatures stored? You can only have four I think.

[Lilith]

Yes, you're limited to four. The order in which the creature slots are filled is random, so if a newly-captured monster overwrites one you already had in there and wanted to keep, reload a saved game and try again.

[Controversial]

Vahnatai lords are a good choice. You'll have to probably use the editor to reload your magicka. I once got an Order Mage, theyre okay.(I thought they were supposed to be immune to magic =\)

[Lilith]

Contrary to popular belief, being immune to magic doesn't make a monster immune to Capture Soul.

[Toenail Returns]

I'm surprised no one's mentioned Basilisk and Ur-Basilisk yet. They are always useful. But then again sometimes Major Summoning will pick up 4 or 5 of them.

[Figgy]

Empire archers are a huge plus. For the fact that they NEVER miss, and aren't random. When you summon them, you know what they'll do and they'll do it well.

 

And can you acually capture a Crystal Soul? I've tried before but always resisted, every single time. I figured they were immune to it.

[John S]

I had an Order Mage and Empire Dervish. I toted around Drakes for a while before that. They make good initial targets, as well as Demons.

 

Has anyone gotten a Haakai? Or Mung Demon? I'm not picky.

[Sullust]

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Originally written by Figgy:
Empire archers are a huge plus. For the fact that they NEVER miss, and aren't random.

They seem to miss my PC every time...

[Toenail Returns]

Mine are always under Mass Sanctuary when I fight Empire Archers and Guards so they never hit. Mhuhahahahaha!

[Thralni]

My characters can mostly without the sanctuary. In exile games, I defeat them with or without it! They keep missing me.

Mhuhahahahaha!

[Figgy]

Empire archers don't simply have godly accuracy, they just cannot miss regular shots. Stuff like sancuary is a different story though It's like how magic never misses, unless you have something like an anti-magic field around you. Empire Archers never miss the ENEMY, though

[Controversial]

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Originally written by Figgy:
Empire archers are a huge plus. For the fact that they NEVER miss, and aren't random. When you summon them, you know what they'll do and they'll do it well.

And can you acually capture a Crystal Soul? I've tried before but always resisted, every single time. I figured they were immune to it.

Yeah, you can capture a crystal soul. They aren't that good though. And it looks weird because when it's summoned it shows up with the vahnatai flooring. (the green one)

[Cairo Jim]

I mostly go for a blademaster, a champion, a vampire and then something random but good.

[BainIhrno]

In Exile 3, I got a Vahnatai Lord, Ur-Basilisk, Vahnatai Master, and Crystal Soul.

 

In BoE, I only capture Basilisks/Ur-Basilisks, but I'm not going to discuss that here.

[Toenail Returns]

I can't ever capture any Vahnatai higher than a Vahnatai Warrior. How can I get the higher ranking ones?

[Gorank]

I intended to capture a dragon, but apparently it was too big. Also, I wanted to capture the Mind Crystal, but it resisted my Level 50 character!! (I figured anything that big of a pain in the neck had to be good) Also, I haven't tried it, but I want to capture Rentar-Ihrono. After all, what would pulverize enemies better than an army of insanely powerful, completely invulnerable creatures?

[Cheeseball]

I don't think its possible to caputire Rhentar-Ihrno, or any of the major characters like Erica. There resistance is probably maxed out, and I dont think a level 99 character could capture them.

My Exile 3 list consists of

Rahkshasha, Pack Leader, Vahnatai Lord, and Vahnatai Keeper.

 

The Vahnatai lord is nice because it can use its own soul crystal to summon things like basilisks, and the pack leader is good because it hits like 6 times dealing a massive amount of damage. The rahkshasa is nice because i beleive its immune to magic, and the keeper is just something i havent really replaced. I think i used to use him as an archer since i think hes the disk thrower, not sure...

[Micawber]

In my soul crystal I like to have

 

• jewelled golems (if I have to suffer their acid attack then so should everyone else);
• shamblers (quite hard to kill, so they are good for shoring up numbers);
• eye beasts (to drain enemy spell points); and
• basilisks (for obvious reasons - sometimes you want to be _certain_ to get a basilisk, so major summoning is no use).

However, summoning anything overtly magical in E[1,2,3] is really fairly pointless, as their firestorm, etc spells are just as likely to kill you as your opponents. Yet, woe betide you if you should dare to harm any of your summoned creatures with an area effect spell. I once made that mistake casting shockwave with Erika in the room. Once.

[Eclipse]

In E2 I captured: Mortrax

Vahnatai Lord

And that Leach creature

[BainIhrno]

To get a Vahnatai Lord, get a good amount of spell points so you can try more than once per session. Just keep reloading the game until you get the Vahnatai Lord.

 

Don't get basilisks in your Soul Crystal. Get Ur-Basilisks. They're much better. They may resist, but just do the same as the Vahnatai Lord.

[Lilith]

The trouble with Ur-Basilisks is that it costs more than twice as many SP to Simulacrum them. In general, I'd rather summon two Basilisks than one Ur-Basilisk, and the former would cost me less SP.

[Locke]

kinda surprising that only 1 person mentioned pack leaders. Anyway:

 

1: Pack Leader

2: Basilisk or Ur-Basilisk

3: Empire Archer

4: Any high power caster. (Vahnatai Lord, Order Mage, things of that sort.)

 

Edit: replaced Empire Dervish with Empire Archer. Who needs a dervish when you got Pack Leaders? Sulfras would have kicked the crap out of me if I didn't have those.

[Archmagus Micael]

For Exile 3:

 

Early on in the game:

 

1)Vahnatai Warrior

2)Vahnatai Mage

3)Wizard

4)Captain

 

At the end of the game:

 

1)Pack Leader

2)Vahnatai Lord

3)Mad Monk

4)Empire Archer

 

Oh well, seems like we're all pretty similar.

 

- Archmagus Micael

[aquadraconus]

My Crystal Soul (Exile 3)

 

1) Pack Leader - I chose him because he is a powerful up close fighter. If these things managed to overrun Footracer Provience, they are pretty useful. When I first fought him, I lost almost 100HP in 1 turn.

2) Basilisk - The ability to instantly turn one of my enemies to stone is invaluable. Pain in th e backside to find a friendly ont though. I just captured a soul of a Vahnatai Lord and let them use their soul crystal to summon one out.

3) Null Bug - Just a cheap way to create Anti-magic fields around my PC's. Tower of Magi has one on hand when you complete the Slime Plague.

4) Vahnatai Warrior - They only cost 8MP and they chuck razerdisks with the same accuracy as the Empire Archers (whose MP is over 20)

[Eldibs]

In E2, the only thing I ever try to capture is Sulfras. He (she?) rules in combat. I never really try to capture anything in E3.

[Kythras]

Quickghasts are crazy. Their only weakness is low hp. Very good up to golems, then they start dying. But summon 4 of those on any big monster and they won't last long at all. Unless the monster is really strong..

 

Can anyone say 4 times 9 times 30?

[Micawber]

(i) 1080; (ii) you already said this, in the other thread; (iii) in general any monster that causes your PCs trouble is worth having in the soul crystal; quickghasts can be problematic in E3, but in A3 spectres take over.

[Chief Spider watching The Simpsons]

You can also capture a guard. Oh and by the way, if you want a demon, just cast Daemon.

[nighthawk3001]

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Originally written by -T-O-E-N-A-I-L-:
I'm surprised no one's mentioned Basilisk and Ur-Basilisk yet. They are always useful. But then again sometimes Major Summoning will pick up 4 or 5 of them.

Thats true, except for one thing. Maybe its because the highest levels out of any of my characters is level 33, but I've summoned dozens of basikisks before, but never any ur-basilisks. Has anyone here ever been able to summon a ur-basikisk through major summoning?

[Bunni K]

- Ur-Basilisk

- Pack Leader

- Eyebeast

- Mad Monk

 

I hate mages and wizards and such. When they start summoning, they summon all these monsters that screw things up. Okay, I admit - I have a tendency to be a control freak when it comes to battles.

 

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Has anyone here ever been able to summon a ur-basikisk through major summoning?

Never happened to me

 

Thank god they come across your path every once in a while.

[aquadraconus]

My soul crystal includes:

 

1) Pack Leader (Awesome fighter {also poisons I believe})

2) Vahnatai Warrior (8 MP can't beat that for those Razordisks. not as powerful as an Empire Archer, but I don't like the 30+ MP for the Empire Archer)

3) Ur-Basilisk (for obvious reasons)

4) Vahnatai Lord (for powerfull spells and their soul crystal of Basilisks and Eyebeasts/Gazers {I cannot remember which one})

 

Its been a while since I played E3 and my E2 is listed in my signature

[Casual Moose]

I've never used caprture soul. It's far too spell point expensive and takes far too much time (AP) to do. Major Summon (which you can get quite quickly if you put your mind to it) creates lots of powerful-ish monsters and it only costs 14 spell points and can beat your 30 spell point guard. (It is also similar with Deamons - summon Deamon costs a lot less spell point wise than getting a deamon via simulacrum does)

 

The only time I've ever found Capture Soul useful was when I got lots empire archers against the massive drake onslaught vs the king drake. They mopped the drakes up really, really quickly.

[ben4808]

Waste of money.

 

So I dunno what I'd have.

[Toenail Returns]

Ur-Basilisk

Demon

Empire Dervish

Cat

[ozymandias107]

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Originally written by Not I:
I had an Order Mage and Empire Dervish. I toted around Drakes for a while before that. They make good initial targets, as well as Demons.

Has anyone gotten a Haakai? Or Mung Demon? I'm not picky.

I managed to get a Haakai in Exile 2 in the lava dome but it took a really, really long time. Rounded the crystal out with an Ur-Basilik, Lich, and Ice Hydra. Not that the hydra's all that impressive, but I was happy with the other three and didn't want to press my luck. Any suggestions for a fourth?

[Lilith]

I'm fond of basilisks, null bugs and quickghasts, although null bugs are more than a little tricky to capture.

[The Mystic]

I only buy Capture Soul and Simulacrum for completeness, and never use them. If I can't kill it with my party, I don't take it on.

[Micawber]

Well, it's amusing reading what one wrote 2 years ago. My answer hasn't changed since then. (Not that I've played Exile very much over the past 2 years.)

[The Mystic]

Overall, I'd say those are good choices.

 

I just don't bother using my soul crystal out of practicality; with my magic-heavy playing style, I need all the spell points I can get.

Quote:

it's amusing reading what one wrote 2 years ago.

Yeah, I noticed a few attempts at topic necromancy with this thread. I'm not complaining, though, because it might be useful should I decide to use a crystal soul.

 

edit: added quote, and a response to it.

[Jeran Korak]

I used a force of Alien Beasts and Pack Leaders and the odd Van Lord to storm Kriszan once.

 

(Can anyone capture a guard btw?)

[The Mystic]

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(Can anyone capture a guard btw?)

I think someone mentioned earlier in this thread that you could.

[Kelandon]

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Originally written by The Mystic:

Quote:

(Can anyone capture a guard btw?)

I think someone mentioned earlier in this thread that you could.

You think right.

Quote:

Originally written by Chief Spider watching The Simpsons:
You can also capture a guard. Oh and by the way, if you want a demon, just cast Daemon.

[The Mystic]

Thought so. Thanks for checking.

[Thrawn 42]

I prefer to use (Early game): Vahnati Lord, Empire Dervish, Empire Archer, and an Ur-Basilisk. Late Game, it's the same, except switch the Dervish with a Pack Leader.

[Robsta]

I really only used capture soul in Exile II, since I had enough other things to think about in Exile III and I don't have many powerful BoE parties yet. But for Exile II, I found it easier to capture friends instead of enemies, since I'm usually to buisy killing the powerful enemies.

Anyways here's my Exile II lineup:

Hydra (useful at first, but never got written over)

Order Mage (costs less than a Wizard, and is just as powerful)

Lich (yep, that was fun)

Vahnatai Blademaster (got it before leaving the vahnatai lands, slaughtered many foes)

[Mingan]

I have an all mage/priest party so right now in E2 i have a lich and a naga

 

i was trying for a haakia but he didn't want to come

[Robsta]

About capturing guards (based on E2, the Exile game I played when using the soul crystal), it's possible(and even easy), but they arn't very powerful unless you first anger them (and this can be dangerous) and even then, they're best for defence. (with an HP of 270(E2), as opposed to 90 when unangered).